I heard of some people lying about their position in a club because our school doesn’t keep a record of these things, and they don’t believe colleges will check. What do you guys think about that?
<p>I'd also like to know about this. It seems to me you could lie about a lot of things on your app because it would be hard for a school with a lot of applicants to go checking everything. I know they will have your test scores and transcript, but let's be honest, I could make up a lot of y ECs or EC leadership positions and chances are no one would know. Also, I want to know if anyone has ever written a fake rec? It seems to me you could get away with that very easily.</p>
<p>what if two people from your club say they're president?</p>
<p>Yea, you could write a fake letter of recommendation. I knew of someone in high school of actually writing one to Stanford and MIT. However, I think that the schools might "re-check" on the rec letter.</p>
<p>You run the risk of being caught, but you probably wouldn't unless you made some crazy claims. But is it really worth the risk?</p>
<p>just be honest..</p>
<p>you'll sleep better at night</p>
<p>it drives me crazy that some people do this :(</p>
<p>i hope anybody who does this feels very guilty. :(</p>
<p>I know ppl who have lied about their position in a club like saying they are the secretary of so and so when they really are just a member</p>
<p>Well... if you lie, there is a rather good chance that it is going to catch up with you sooner or later... And if it does catch up, you'll get kicked out of the school (if you're still attending). If you've already graduated they may revoke your diploma(?). That would suck since you wouldn't get any of your money back either... </p>
<p>So basically, if you do it, you run the risk of getting seriously messed over.</p>
<p>The moral of the story? Don't lie :D.</p>
<p>Lying on resumes/applications is common, but it's not to the extent that I'd say it was "lying" exactly. More exaggerating. I work on my school's newspaper. One or two weeks out of the month I work WAY more, at least 25 hours a week, while the other weeks it's more like 5-10 hours. On my applications, the # of hours I work on the newspaper is going to be closer to 25 than 5-10, you know? Not exactly lying, just going with the stronger number. Just be careful about slightly increasing the number of hours for each EC--there are only so many hours in the week, and adcoms aren't stupid.</p>
<p>At my school, clubs can have more than one president. I'm a co-president of a club, but on my application I'll probably put president. </p>
<p>However, making up recommendations and inventing positions and clubs--not good. Similarities in writing styles are for some people/adcoms very easy to pick up. This will be magnified if one recommendation is glaringly different from the other recommendations. I would NOT recommend doing this. Deep trouble with college and HS if you are caught, and it just isn't worth that.</p>
<p>Yeah I wasn't really advocating lying, just musing on how easy it would probably be. As far as recs, that would be a major no-no i guess because it would be easier for you to get caught and the consequences would be worse, and I never thought about the writing styles part, but I guess a person could have a friend write it. </p>
<p>And the part about stretching out the hours, NO ONE is going to get caught doing that if it is within reason, so why not, other than the obvious moral dilemma.</p>
<p>What if they call the guidance counselor to confirm that a person was actually what they say they were?</p>
<p>Alien, the thing is that they would never bother doing that unless you put that you were president of every activity you were in. In addition, at my stupid public school, the GCs wouldn't even now whether I was or not, they might just say, "O yeah he was" just to cover their butts (to avoid embarassment at not even knowing anything about their students).</p>
<p>True enough drummer</p>
<p>yea, a lot of the times the college will confirm by sending something back</p>
<p>You better not fake your recommendation because they can call that person to learn more about you if they have to. Recommendations aren't just that stupid part of the application, they actually look at it and write notes about it and if they have to ask that person how the applicant is doing now or whatever, you're gonna be rejected for lying. But like I said before, you can exaggerate a bit if you want to, but don't put something like "President for computer club" when you were never a member in reality. My GC probably would say I wasn't the leader if some club even if I was because she's so damn confused all of the time. It sucks. I'm gonna hate asking her for a recommendation.</p>
<p>Is it really okay to say that you're president of a club when you are actually a "co-president?" Does anyone really care?</p>
<p>Lying on an application at work even if it is found out years later can be grounds for immeadiate termination. Lying on the application if found out after your admissions can be cause fro rescinding your admission, expelling you from school and rescinding your diploma after you graduate leaving you with a worthless piece of paper</p>
<p>my counselor wrote that i was in ASB on her rec for me even though i wasn't and never mentioned anything about that and didnt list it in my brag sheet. i saw my rec later in the year and told her i was never in ASB but she was like "oh you seemed like you were so involved on campus that i thought you were in asb." LOL. i told her to delete it and re-send it but she said colleges won't care.</p>
<p>but i guess it didn't help much since i didn't list it as one of my EC's. </p>
<p>anyway, i think lying about a club position won't take you far. or at least, if you're aiming for top colleges, an extra club position (even in real life) probably won't be of much help anyway.</p>