<p>a friend of (transfer from CCC) mine just got into ucb and ucla as an econ major with a 3.7 gpa while i got rejected with a 3.9. he admitted that he lied about his extra cirriculars, so my question is this:</p>
<p>does berkeley or ucla actually CHECK whether people are lying or not??? and should i turn him in? he's my friend, but i've worked harder than him to get a higher gpa and i was honest on my application. i can't help but to think that his acceptance could have been my acceptance. </p>
<p>insight greatly appreciated!!</p>
<p>just let it go. he’ll get what’s coming to him, at some point.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t stay his friend if I were you.</p>
<p>LOL</p>
<p>Of course its not ethical to lie about anything on an application, but neither is being a narc and turning in your friend.
I mean you don’t gain anything from turning the guy in, just do what you do and like what Sopheee and Abe Lincoln said, you can’t fool everyone all the time.</p>
<p>Are you sure that he got in over you solely on his ECs? Could he have had more pre-reqs done? More units finished? Maybe a better essay? Have you called the school to ask why you were rejected? </p>
<p>I’m curious as to how watertight your evidence must be to consider narc-ing your buddy, or are you just dealing with rejection poorly?</p>
<p>hey stop calling me a narc, seriously, you have no idea what position i’m in.</p>
<p>we took literally the same classes every single semester and so we had the same number of units and prereques. (fyi we’ve been friends since elementary school).
our essays we’re pretty much the same–about our high school shutting down and what we did to deal with it.
he doesn’t even feel a little bit sorry that he got in and i didn’t…i don’t know, i probably won’t turn him in but it just feels so unjust. it’s not completely unrealistic to think that i would have gotten in if he hadn’t added BS about his ecs</p>
<p>Yeah it’s always good to lie! The Establishment doesn’t know the truth. People who play dirty get ahead in life.</p>
<p>Okay, I’ll ask again: Did you bother calling the school and finding out why you were rejected?</p>
<p>what a skaank. i got rescinded from ucla last year as a freshman admit cause my 12th grade gpa dropped to a 2.8. My friend, who took nearly identical classes as I did senior year, also got a 2.8 but they let him in just fine. i swear, the UCs are hella random with the way they deal with some things. :(</p>
<p>No, I didn’t. Explain to me why that matters. If, for instance, I had a higher GPA and I had more extracirriclarls, and I still ended up being rejected while he is accepted, then that warrants a call, but it’s much simpler than that; he had a more complete (albeit fake) application.</p>
<p>This kind of stuff happens all the time at work. There are undeserving people who get promoted, and deserving people who don’t. This is life, time to move on.</p>
<p>You should call and ask.</p>
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<p>Because you’re thinking about potentially ruining the life of someone you had considered to be your friend without even knowing the full story. </p>
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<p>At least if you call, and they say “your ECs weren’t that good” you’d know that for a fact. Honestly at this point without really knowing the full story you’re just grasping at straws and coming off as a sore loser.</p>
<p>agreed. just worry about yourself and not about others and everything will work itself out. :)</p>
<p>the UC’s do in fact check the validity of EC, around 10% of its applicants are randomly chosen to verify their EC.</p>
<p>This type of thing happens every year, both in freshmen and transfer admission, when someone lies on their application and gets away with it. Understandably, you may feel that it is unfair and frustrating, but life isn’t always fair, not everything is black and white. Instead of contemplating about ratting him to the admission, I think you should focus on moving on. If you are bright and motivated, you are bound to succeed no matter where you go, regardless of the school you got accepted to.</p>
<p>No, a sore loser is someone who played a FAIR game and lost, and is “sore.”
I played an UNFAIR game where my competition CHEATED to get ahead. You’re going to blame me for complaining? </p>
<p>Plus, he was being sneaky from the start, because he didn’t tell me he lied about ECs until we both submitted our applications and the deadline had passed. </p>
<p>I just think it’s frickin ridiculous to call me a sore loser when I played the game fairly and the other person didn’t. you need to get your head together.</p>
<p>dude honestly, ur gonna encounter these unfair situations many more times throughout your life. and honestly, ec’s generally aren’t that big of a factor (unless its a hugely prestigious thing or amazing work experience) so he must have done something else that made his application look better. </p>
<p>and btw, its “curricular.” not cirricular or however u spelled it.</p>
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<p>Call it what you will, you are still coming off poorly.</p>
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<p>You are mad that your friend got into your school and without doing the leg work to validate your theory you are declaring yourself the superior candidate. You very well might be, and your friend very well might be a total scum bag, and you very well might have gotten shafted, but I see little reason to whine about it without all the facts.</p>
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<p>I need to? I’m not the one crying on a forum about not getting into my dream school and threatening to rat out my friend. I’m not the cheating type, but I’m pretty glad I’m not your buddy.</p>
<p>Sorry you didn’t get into your school. My (and other people’s) advice to you is to grow up and get over it.</p>
<p>Getting rejected from Cal and UCLA with a 3.9 also sounds kind of fishy. I feel like we weren’t given all the facts.</p>
<p>What if they made a mistake processing or you made a mistake that you’re unaware of on your application? If you don’t call, you can’t be sure it was the lie (and not something else) that got him in. It honestly sounds like you’re more interested in whining than justice. If you were interested in justice, you would require hard evidence before pulling the trigger.</p>
<p>Personally, I had a friend that can barely handle lower division math get D’s in major prerequisites and still get admitted to Cal engineering. Meanwhile, I was rejected with a 4.0 (albeit in a more competitive major).</p>
<p>Vivace@ I am reading your posts and your personality is very UGLY. seems like the characteristics that bother you most are the ones you see in yourself… </p>
<p>Ex: you are calling your friend sneaky when you are being sneaky on a forum contemplating ratting your friend out!! That is pretty sneaky… Then you ask for others advice and because they don’t cosign your bulls*it you start attacking them… Yep… very ugly. Good luck in life because this type of behavior will hurt you forever…</p>
<p>Furthermore, you had the same opportunity as him and could have chosen to make up EC’s too… Just face it, your application simply wasn’t strong enough…</p>