Lying about ECs on UCB AND UCLA APP????

<p>Yeah man, with the kind of stuff you’re posting on other people’s threads, you should be grateful with the responses you’re getting. Before you start attacking other people’s grammar you should learn to spell “extracurricular” yourself.</p>

<p>If you don’t have proof, why are you complaining?</p>

<p>if you read my original post you might pick up on my tone–I wasn’t angry or even annoyed. it’s just that suddenly everyone is telling me that I’m not being a good friend when they don’t know even a fraction of what is going in the situation, and it’s nothing I’m going to go further into.</p>

<p>In fact, only ONE person has answered my initial question, everyone else just been judging my personality based off what I said, ignoring the fact that you all would probably have some of the same sentiments I’m having now.
There is NO way you all would say “oh just let it go” if you were in my position. You can’t assume you know the situation.</p>

<p>Woah, take a step back. From what you posted, it didn’t sound like you had any concrete evidence. Do you? If I was in your situation and had concrete evidence, I’d narc.
Back in high school, I was actually caught up in a somewhat similar situation. The only difference was that the guy was not my best friend. I witnessed him selling tests to a good friend of mine. I narced on him because I knew this wasn’t the first time he has done this (it was the only time I was sure he had copies in his bag). He was disciplined by being issued a warning, he ended being accepted to UCLA. Believe me, I was ****ed. At the same time, I recognized that there wasn’t much I could do. I took it as a life lesson and moved on.</p>

<p>oh shut up. you’re going to judge my personality by a few posts on college confidential? YOU need to get your head together. Have you even considered how you would feel if you were in my situation? You would feel exactly how I am feeling.</p>

<p>Even the 3.7 GPA he had was with an enormous amount MY help, but again, you aren’t in my situation to understand what has been going on for the last two years.
And let me say again, when I first posted here I wasn’t angry or even that annoyed, I just asked about the fact-checking that goes on at the UC, but people like you come along thinking they have a great ability to psychoanalyze people over the internet. Just shut up.</p>

<p>Yeah, I’ll probably call in on Monday. Thanks. But it’s not so much that which bothers me, but rather my friend’s actions and (lack of) virtues in this whole situation, and the fact that everyone is attacking ME for feeling the way anybody would feel in my situation.</p>

<p>I think most of us empathize with how you feel, we just don’t think ratting on him is necessarily the right thing to do.</p>

<p>it seems like you started this thread with the intention of having everyone agree with you and when they didn’t, you got defensive and you started trying to justify your argument.</p>

<p>LOL. No, I don’t suffer attempts at garnering pity parties, if that’s what you mean Vivace.</p>

<p>Just curious, what type of stuff did your friend lie about?</p>

<p>If he said he had cancer or something… that’s pretty wrong. If he just said he was an officer in a club, that probably did not hold much weight.</p>

<p>umm
Did I think people would agree that cheating and lying on a college application is wrong? Yeah… Did I expect a little sympathy? yeah, to be honest, I did. But mostly I was trying to get information on if and how UCs fact-check. </p>

<p>What I didn’t expect was people sticking their fangs into me about something they have no context on.</p>

<p>From what he told me, which I don’t whether or not to believe, he lied about community service, an internship, and club positions. And again, he didn’t tell me that he lied about it until after the app deadline—not to say that I would have jumped on his boat and lied, but it does show stealth on his part.</p>

<p>you probably would have had more sympathy if you had given the whole story, and not just your side of it. you also should have called the admissions office and asked them why they rejected you (as others have already said). if you did all of that and found out that you were rejected specifically because you had sucky ECs (as opposed to your friend’s fudged ones), and if said that the lie was a huge one, you would have had a much more sympathetic audience. But then, everyone on this thread has already said as much.</p>

<p>and btw, insulting everyone isn’t going to get you anywhere. if you wanna narc, then narc; you obviously want to. You’re just bitter because everyone didn’t back you up.</p>

<p>crazyyy, please believe me when I say I’m NOT bitter about people not backing me up.
Any bitterness you’re sensing is from people judging me without even knowing my situation. And also bitterness for not actually answering my very simple question!</p>

<p>Hey Vivace,</p>

<p>All UCs do ask for some verification for a select number of applicants.</p>

<p>I would like to leave you a bit of advice for your situation.</p>

<p>No matter what happens or who did it, it’s your always 100% your fault. You didn’t get accepted to UCLA because your application wasn’t good enough. It has nothing to do whether or not they were admitted. Whatever happens to him (or her) from this point on is none of your concern. If you choose to end your friendship with said person because you don’t feel comfortable with their integrity, then do so but do not end your friendship because they were admitted to UCLA/UCB and you were not.</p>

<p>Sunnyday! Great advice to keep things in perspective.</p>

<p>um you know that they have a quota to fill per major, right? every major is technically impacted. last year UCLA only accepted 80 econ majors. it’s hard to speculate because I don’t KNOW whether i would have gotten in if it wasn’t for him, but I wasn’t ever even speculating, people just assumed I was bitter.</p>

<p>I sympathize. At my school, the majority of those that got into Cal cheated off of the minority that truly deserved to get in. This wasn’t even the stealthy kind of cheating, this was the frequent blatant staring at other peoples AP tests and cheating during SATs kind. I was really angry about that (and no, I didn’t apply and get rejected). But meh, that’s life.</p>

<p>c’est la vie</p>