lying-- how often does this occur?

<p>I didn't realize that it even happened (yeah whatever I live in a bubble, I know), but I know that some people in my school lie on their applications, AND some of the teachers support it. Is this common? I thought it was really strange.</p>

<p>Well.. look at the ex-MIT admissions dean. It's a pretty risky thing to do.</p>

<p>See these threads:
<a href="http://www.collegeconfidential.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?5/92745%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.collegeconfidential.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?5/92745&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=278897%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=278897&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>yea i really want to know the answer to this question. and also will your councelor see it if you lie? i mean just say you were in a club but you weren't, will your councellor know?
i mean i will never lie, cuz i dont think one EC of a club will do anything, but my question is will they ever catch you? liek there are 20,000 aplicants. they cant check every single one, can they?
also my sat teacher is an admisssions officer for WashU and he said to delete facebook and Myspace, and he says he will tell be how they check it but i forgot to ask him and i dont see him anymore.</p>

<p>Lying is caught more often than not if it's something that will actually affect your admissions.</p>

<p>Hey, has someone ever heard of lying on your ethnicity before? That's something that people get busted on often too, right?</p>

<p>I believe its the UCs that randomly select apps to verify activities for, and if you have a few "strange" activities/ECs, that are drastically different from the others, it'll probably throw up a red flag. And there are some apps that ask for hours per week spent on activities and if an applicant says they commit like 150 hours per week spread over 5 or 6 activities, the adcom will know it's crap. There are 168 hours in a week, you're in class for 40 of those (approx), even if you only sleep 6 hours a night thats 42 hours, if you study 2 hours a night during the week thats 10 so you're already at 92 hours. Students fill in hours that "sound good" without realizing that Hey...that's not possible.</p>

<p>You won't always be caught, but if/when you are, the adcom more than likely won't take any mercy on you.</p>

<p>surprise surprise, it came up on the second post...</p>

<p>but what about the fact that the teachers in my school know that it goes on and do nothing about it? it sort of bothers me..</p>

<p>well, what can they really do? lots of people lie on their application, and too few get punished for it, but that's no reason to think it's okay.</p>

<p>so it's not that my school is an anomaly of any sort? lol</p>

<p>OH MY GOSH PEOPLE LIE ON THEIR APPLICATION???????????? How could they EVER live with themselves?</p>

<p>um, sorry? I meant it in a serious way... I know I'm just really naive or something... I just wanted to know if there were adults (gcs / teachers) who supported this kind of thing at your school, too.</p>

<p>A kid who is a freshman at Brown was president of the senior class at my high school last year, and supossively made up a lot of stuff on his application. It doesn't surprise me at all. He comes from a dirty family.</p>

<p>lol @ "dirty family"</p>

<p>ncody dont talk smack about a schwartz- hes a great golfer- by the way..what did he lie about and where did you hear he lied? (i believe u.,.jst wondering tho)</p>

<p>It depends...There are two types of lying.
There's the "enhancer" such as adding a few hours here and there, which probably won't affect your decision and are very, if not impossible, to catch. Most people do some level of this.
Then there's the all out fabrication, making up clubs, writing incorrect GPA's..this is a lot easier to catch, less people do it, and these fabrications tend to be of great enough magnitude to affect your decision.</p>

<p>I know a few kids that lied significantly all over their college apps and got into (and are attending) SUPER-ELITE schools.</p>