<p>how do colleges even know if you lie on your apps or not. can't you just put down a bunch of awards in the awards section? how can they even know if you got them or not? is the only barrier to lying on one's application morals and guilt?</p>
<p>and the fact that if they somehow find out, your admission's rescinded, and you're probably blacklisted or something</p>
<p>If a person needs to lie to get into a school, they probably don't belong there in the first place. In addition, why take the chance...?? If you get caught, you will be lucky to be accepted to a community college.</p>
<p>if the school thinks that something is not right on the application, all it takes is a quick call to the high school guidance counselor for them to find out.</p>
<p>ya counselor call, question, and app gets destroyed.
If you are really unlucky, they might call other schools as well.
I know some colleges share ED records, so this wouldn't be unheard of.</p>
<p>Seriously I've seen like 10 threads on this topic in the past couple of weeks.
First colleges know if you lied because they can perform a simple Google search or search around on your school's website. Second, they can easily see from your teacher recommendations/counselor recommendations. If you claim that you were captain of this and that and your teachers and counselors mention nothing of this, adcoms will get suspicious and call your school. Third, they know if your application doesn't "fit." If you claim to have won tons and tons of science awards, and have mediocre grades and test scores in science, they'll get to the bottom of it.</p>
<p>Nice posts, all. Most of you seem to have this one covered. I'll add that many schools list awards and activities in the documents they send us (the back of transcript is a common place to find the list). </p>
<p>Ivy, you also sign a statement saying that the information provided is true. I guess if you're contemplating this, that might not be a concern.</p>
<p>Gee whiz. I can tell when my little brother is lying. So, I guess Adcom would be able to tell if I was lying, one way or another. Don't try it.</p>
<p>if you are just going to make up the fact that you do some outside club sport or were employed by some not very well known company for x amount of months, no one would be able to say you weren't. you can just tell your teachrs and counc. that you have the job and you are part of blah blah blah soccer club.</p>
<p>And keep your fingers crossed that nobody finds out about it, ever. And the whole guilty conscience thing. And the fact that you lied when you signed a statement saying that everything was truthful. Are you planning on lying on your resume, too?</p>
<p>wow, so it IS just a guilt thing. Colleges really can't find out! Sweet!</p>
<p>well, the thing about it, ivyplanter, is that if the college decides to give you an award based on your lies, or say your local newspaper decides to write an article about you, all your lies will come out. And once you've lied on your app, colleges have the right to rescind your admissions. Is it really worth it?</p>
<p>It will come back and bite you in the butt in the future. :)</p>
<p>You can be a senior in college right about to graduate, and someone will find out and you will be kicked out of your college.</p>
<p>If the accomplishment is big enough to matter, they'll be able to verify it. If it's an accomplishment that can't be verified, it's probably not going to make a whit of difference in acceptances. So why bother?</p>
<p>Oh, and about the job - if you're applying for financial aid, the college gets your tax returns, as well as your W-2. I'd say that's "verification."</p>
<p>Just imagine when you run for President in 40 years. The media will go over every word you ever wrote on anything. Your lies will, someday, come back to haunt you. . . If the lie is unverifiable and inconsequential, why do it? Stick with the truth.</p>
<p>hmm then would it be bad to have an under the table job listed?</p>
<p>Ivyplanter I hope you're not being serious about your last post. Seriously, why would someone smart enough to get into TASP need to lie to get into a top school?</p>
<p>Look the fact is that the school that are worth lying to get into WILL catch you. It's that simple. </p>
<p>If you're a mediocre applicant, they'll refuse you based on your grades and scholastic performance.</p>
<p>If you're a very good student that are just trying to get that extra boost that will make Brown go "oooh"; it's just not worth the risk. High very competitive universities WILL find out and then ruin your chances at other colleges as well. Brown finds a cheater; they're gonna tell it to the other schools you applied to. I think they're binded to.</p>
<p>It's not a conscience thing, its just logic. It makes no sense to do it.</p>
<p>Bet this poster heard what s/he wanted to hear and will never come back.</p>
<p>"wow, so it IS just a guilt thing. Colleges really can't find out! Sweet!"</p>
<p>Ivy planter, you will get caught. If you plan on mentioning that you did sports clubs, you need to provide the name of the club as well. I did a whole bunch, and they're sponsored by the Department of Defense; therefore, if they want additional information, they can call the Y.S. directly without even going through me. And as for awards, your grades, and all your other credentials will speak for itself. I got awards form the school in two of my ap classes, and guess what? I had the highest grades in both of those classes out of the whole school. Next, if you lie about a sport, and if you SUCK at it, they will obviously find it hard to believe. It will resurface up. Plus, you never know when you'll be in that 15 percent comprehensive review, where they literally screen everything to detect how honest an individual is. If you plan on going IVY, you will most likely get caught because they don't select people for jack.</p>
<p>One more thing, hope you get caught! You're obviously planning on it.</p>