Lying on your app

I know this has been brought up before but i cant seem to find it…

of my friend of mine (not me) told me all the crap he is doing on his app that i think is cheating. For different clubs or volunteer things he put down more years that he really did. (ie math club Grade 9, 10, 11, 12) meanwhile he didnt do it in 9th grade. He did this for a few other things. Also he exaggerated on his hours. Will colleges catch him? do u they usually confirm if u did an activity for a certain number of hours or years, or do they just sometimes confirm if u actually did the activity? also, who do they call to verify? I dont wanna rat out my friend but it ****es me off…

<p>Also, do colleges often check or only when there are contradictions? like someone else from your school said that they were president of X club and you said that too</p>

<p>rounding up hours(i.e. 58.5hrs --> 60 hrs) is not such a big deal.</p>

<p>Actually lying about your extracurriculars or making significant exaggerations is a big no-no.</p>

<p>Most of the time, admissions works on a honor-code basis, but they can absolutely check if they are suspicious.</p>

<p>but how can they be suspicious? I mean, all my friend is doing is adding another year and extending his hours. Whats suspicious about that? Should i tell someone about him? i dont wanna be a d ick.</p>

<p>he actually did the activities, so hes not making up the things he did</p>

<p>you're not being a dick, he's being a dick. if he doesnt have the commitment to actually do the work, he shouldnt get credit for it. look, if he gets into a good college and you dont, **** the friendship and kick his ass. then do it again every time you see him. maybe that will teach him cheaters never get ahead. really. do it.</p>

<p>Just kidding of course...honestly, though, don't feel bad if he's caught or if you rat him out. The worst thing he could do was cheat...it destroys the whole admissions process. Please don't do it yourself.</p>

<p>thats f*ed up tho. Hes my good friend. I'm just scared for him? do u think there is a good chance they will verify? and who do colleges call to verify?</p>

<p>cant anybody see through this tool?
it's obviously him doing the "exaggerating"!</p>

<p>if you were a good friend you wouldn't want colleges to verify. you wouldn't even be thinking about rating your friend out. be a good friend and stay out of it. life isn't fair, cheaters win in the short term, but in the long run, honesty pervails! :)</p>

<p>first of all, its not me. It really is my friend. but anyway, no is really answering my question. Do they check often? and to who? and will they check his hours and years?</p>

<p>patiently waiting...hey, where do u go to school in cincy if u dont mind me asking...Notre Dame girl here!</p>

<p>that guy is a dumbass for doing it, adding one year of "math club" membership is not gonna get him in, but it will definitely keep him out if they check to verify.</p>

<p>no one seems to be answering my question. I only and understand everything that you are all saying. Yes, i no what he did is rong. Yes, he will be f*ed if he gets caught but my questions are....</p>

<p>is it likely they will check?
who to they verify with?
do they really check hours and years?</p>

<p>That's nothing. A classmate-- as white and as non-disadvantaged as could be-- is telling colleges that he's Hispanic. He says the race lines are so blurred between who's Hispanic and who's not that he feels that a relation a few generations ago qualifies him as Hispanic. I want him to attend whichever college he wants, but I can't help feeling like it will be very disappointing if Princeton doesn't see through it. It wouldn't be so bad if he were more qualified on his own or if he honestly deserved to be considered as a minority applicant (obviously).</p>

<p>Razorsharp:
1)No
2)counselor???
3)not really, from what i've heard</p>

<p>if they are suspicious they will check, but for the most part they will just take what you put down. i dont think colleges have the time to check one person's ECs if they have thousands of other applications to read. also, anything you can lie about can't be that significant that it will help you get in. willwonka--as for that "hispanic" kid, i;ve known a lot of people who do that and actually one kid in my school was caught last year b/c he told brown that he was native american haha</p>

<p>Putting down a different ethnicity than what you are is pretty absurd.</p>

<p>I'm just curious, how would they go about it if they wanted to verify something? Let's say you said you were in a certain club, and they wanted to verify that - Would they ask for a letter of rec from the person in charge or something?</p>

<p>I have a question. I was co-president of a club last year. But officially, on the forms and whatnot, there was only room for one president, so the other guy was written down as the official president. Uhm, would they call me out for lying if i put "co-president/founder"?</p>

<p>"That's nothing. A classmate-- as white and as non-disadvantaged as could be-- is telling colleges that he's Hispanic. He says the race lines are so blurred between who's Hispanic and who's not that he feels that a relation a few generations ago qualifies him as Hispanic. I want him to attend whichever college he wants, but I can't help feeling like it will be very disappointing if Princeton doesn't see through it. It wouldn't be so bad if he were more qualified on his own or if he honestly deserved to be considered as a minority applicant (obviously)."</p>

<p>i'm sorry to say, but your classmate is f***ed because high schools indicate the applicant's race on the official transcript they send to colleges.</p>