M408D vs last in 3-part calc sequence

<p>So I just found out I got a 5 on AP Calculus BC and I was wondering if it would be better for me to take the M408D AP class or the last class in the 3-part sequence? My major is Electrical Engineering.</p>

<p>M408D includes series and sequences while M408M does not. Try asking other EE majors if series and sequences is needed.</p>

<p>Yeah, sequences and series were my weak point as well. Any EE majors care to comment?</p>

<p>Sequences and series are just terrible… I was going to take M 408D but I saw that I would have to take sequences and series again (I took calc 1 and 2 already) so I am just taking M 408M. M 408M is a lot easier to make an A in than 408 D.</p>

<p>I’m taking M408 C again, even though I got a 5 on the BC. :)</p>

<p>I’m leaning towards taking 408M unless sequences and series are important for EE.</p>

<p>I would ask that in the engineering forum. They should help you out a bit more. Try searching “sequences” in the engineering forum, I am sure something will show up.</p>

<p>One different option:</p>

<p>I got a 5 on both the Calculus AB and BC exams. I did not see a point in taking 408D nor 408M because those all cover areas discussed in BC.</p>

<p>I am currently registered for M 427L (ADVANCED CALCULUS FOR APPLICATIONS II - AP HONORS). After a phone call to the mathematics department, they reassured me that this class will complete the required sequence.</p>

<p>I believe this course is UT’s equivalent of Cal III. So for the students not wanting to sit in a class they’ve already taken, I think this is a valuable option. Sure, it may go beyond the required Calculus, but if you enjoy the mathematics enough to receive a 5, why not pursue the higher level course?</p>

<p>408M covers multivariable, which is not part of calc bc.</p>

<p>I’m pretty sure that regardless of whether you take vector cal (427L), you are still required to finish the calculus sequence with credit in either 408M or 408D, according to the degree audit. There is, however, an upper division science or math elective that can be fulfilled by 427L.</p>

<p>427L essentially picks up where 408M leaves off. The last thing studied in the 408 series is multivariable integration/intro to PDE(?). 427L covers more applications of multivariable theory, including Stokes theorem, Green’s theorem, line and surface integrals etc.</p>

<p>I got a 5 on my AP Calculus AB test. Should i take M 408D or take M 408C all over again? At orientation everyone made it seem like taking the 408D class would be a very bad decision, because u need time to adjust and the 408C class would help you do that. </p>

<p>Also I’m an electrical engineering major, so would it be better to get my math classes finished sooner than later, or will my first semester at ut going to be hell with all the other classes i have to take as well?</p>

<p>If you believe you are a strong calculus student and can understand the concepts presented at a much faster pace, then D would most likely be the optimal choice. If you think that you would greatly benefit from a review of the material you’ve already covered and/or think that you would not succeed in a faster paced class, perhaps C is better.</p>

<p>With that disclaimer, I’m very glad that I claimed as much credit as possible because it allowed me the flexibility of taking combinations of classes that were manageable. Had I retaken those classes, I may have been forced into schedules (such as the one suggested in the 4th semester of the EE four year plan) that may have been much more difficult (FYI, taking 319, 313, 316, and M340L together as recommended is probably a terrible decision). In my opinion, the burden of taking the faster paced course would definitely be mitigated by knowing that it were the last calculus i would have to take :slight_smile: (I didn’t actually take any calculus at UT but I have tutored students from all five calculus classes).</p>

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<p>Yes, I was worried about this exact thing. I had confusion over the course description for M 427L ADV CALC FOR APPLC II-AP-HON with this statement:

I thought, OK, good, this class is designed for incoming freshmen not wanting to take 408D/408M.
What bothered me was the second statement:

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<p>So I call the mathematics department, asking about this issue. They informed me that, yes, this class is designed for incoming freshmen and it will complete the required calculus sequence.</p>

<p>Was I misinformed / what is your take on it?</p>

<p>Hmm I personally don’t know anyone who has taken this route, but that doesn’t mean it’s not a legitimate option. Instead of checking with the math department, I would e-mail one of the EE academic advisors to see whether this path would complete the calculus requirement.</p>

<p>Keep in mind that M408C/D classes are usually free response with partial credit, and M408 K/L/M classes are multiple choice all or nothing type of affairs.</p>

<p>^any clue for the rationale behind this system?</p>

<p>take M 408D unless you are that stupid at math. Don’t take those L M or K courses. They are not for engineering. </p>

<p>M408C and M408D are more engineering oriented courses.</p>

<p>I suggest you take M408D</p>

<p>Personally, I prefer the 408C/D sequence because of the partial credit. The two semester sequence is the one that engineering majors,etc have to take, so I’m guessing that they want to make sure you understand it better than purely multiple choice guessing.</p>

<p>However, you will start along sequences/series and L’hopital’s rule and if that’s a factor in your decision, that’s 408D. Further, 408D has some overlap with the BC coursework, so you may or may not find that appetizing.</p>

<p>Since you only have a semester left, it’s really up to you and what you decide is the best course of action.</p>

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<p>Actually, I was told by my advisor to take M 408M instead of 408D since I have credit for calculus 1&2 already (I am also an engineering major). She said that I will know just as much as the kid who took the C and D sequence.</p>