<p>So my congressman gave me his Main nomination to Westpoint and a competeing nomination to Navy. I also have two other nominations(anoter to Westpoint and Navy totaling two and two). One from each Senator</p>
<p>Is the "Main" Nomination the same as a presidential nomination? If so does that mean that I am accepeted to Westpoint? </p>
<p>Any info as well as chances of getting in for both places?</p>
<p>In a nutshell: A MOC can submit ten names for each opening. He can submit the list by one of three methods; a principal nomination with ranked alternates, a principal nomination with competitive alternates, or an entire competitive list. ‘Competitive’ means he leaves it up to the Academy to decide, based on competitive rankings. ‘Principal’ means that should that candidate be triple qualified-3Qed-scholastically, physically, and medically, he will be offered the appointment.</p>
<p>This has been discussed exhaustively on this forum and if you do a search, you can probably find some of the discussions.</p>
<p>^^ Does anyone know which type of nominations Mac Thornberry gives? He is MOC for 13th District Texas. If you don’t know how could I find out?</p>
<p>In a nutshell: A MOC can submit ten names for each opening. He can submit the list by one of three methods; a principal nomination with ranked alternates, a principal nomination with competitive alternates, or an entire competitive list. ‘Competitive’ means he leaves it up to the Academy to decide, based on competitive rankings. ‘Principal’ means that should that candidate be triple qualified-3Qed-scholastically, physically, and medically, he will be offered the appointment.</p>
<p>Mombee…if you had to ascribe rough %'s to the three nomination types above in use by the MOCs today, what would these %'s be in your opinion: for example…(1) principle/alternates = X%, (2) principle/competitive alteernates = X% (3) Entire competitive = X% total 100%</p>
<p>It is not a published number. I do know that some MOCs allow their board to decide on a board-by-board basis. The three or four times I have heard it mentioned by people who should know, they all have said that around three fourths of the slates are submitted with a competitive listing. I suggest everyone ask. Whether or not they will tell you is another story.</p>
<p>While MOCs can opt for any of the above options, the USNA encourages [and prefers] an unranked slate. Some MOCs will let you know how they submit their nominees, some will not. Sadly, there are even a handful of MOCs that will not submit any nominations at all.</p>
<p>That I was his “main” nomination(his number one choice to West Point) and then said he had also given me a “competing alternative” nomination to Navy(which is my first choice).</p>
<p>So I assume thats a Principal for West Point</p>
<p>I know I am qualified medically and physically, but how do I know if I am qualified academically? Is this my GPA? SAT scores? Teacher Recs?</p>
<p>Am I automatically academically qualified with prinicpal nomination?</p>
<p>What does this mean for Navy</p>
<p>Sorry for all the questions, thank you all for your time</p>
<p>If you received a principle nomination, then you are probably scholastically qualified. A MOC is not going to give a principle nomination to someone who wasn’t.</p>
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If you received a principle nomination, then you are probably scholastically qualified.
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Not necessarily. Two completely independent processes. The MOC does not have access to all the information which Admissions uses to make their decision. Also, they do not necessarily look at it in the same manner.</p>
<p>Also, unless you are specifically told “principal” nomination, never assume anything.</p>
<p>My son received the Principal Nomination to USNA from our congressman. He has since broken a finger and thus now has a remedial on his once medically qualified status. We know that he was triple qualified before the nomination. He should be cleared medically again in January. Will the academy hold off on the appointment until the remedial is removed? They won’t give away his spot will they? How does this work? Thanks for any knowledge as we are newbies to all of this.</p>
<p>An appointment will not be offered until your son is cleared medically.
A principle nomination, even for those triple q’d, is still not a guarantee. The MOC does not have access to the entire record.
Until the appointment is received, there is no appointment to be held, and no spot to be given away- he has not, as of yet, been given a “spot.”</p>
<p>The good news is that aside from LOAs, which have already gone out, appointments will wait until all MOC nominations are in [January 30th] and applications are closed [march].</p>
<p>It is a long waiting game.
First and foremost, get him healed and healthy.
When he is healthy, get his status on DoDMERB updated
Follow up- promptly- with any additional information needed by DoDMERB
Keep his BGO updated- regularly.
Instruct your son to do what he has to do to stay “healthy” going forward.
Injuries, for those WITH appointments, have caused more than one appointee to head home right up to I-Day… not a good thing.
Bubble wrap- head to toe- highly recommended.
If you figure out a way to do that, let me know.</p>
<p>^^^ Clarify that appointments may go out before March if all applicaitons are in for a MOC’s slate.</p>
<p>^^^^^Keep in mind that even though the applications may be “in”, they can be amended up to the March 1 submittal deadline. Therefore a competitive slate would require a highly identifiable number one slot in order for the appointment to be awarded.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comments. My son is not on a competitive slate, he’s the principal nominee on the slate. The waiting is hard. This is an emotional roller coaster. We have been mislead a bit I guess. When my son was informed of his nomination he was told that he was guaranteed an appointment. The school held a little ceremony for the congressman to make his announcement and they posted it on the senior college acceptance board in the office immediately after he was told. He has back up plans, the NROTC scholarship and has been accepted to the college as well but for a few days was sure he was going to Navy. His BGO said the same thing as here, it’s not 100% yet. BGO did say that the USNA is bound by law to charge our MOC his principal if he is qualified. He has received three letters form USNA notifying him of his qualified status and they have called the house three times to talk with him and offer to answer any questions about the process. It’s been almost a year since he filled out the preliminary application (Feb. 1, 2009). It all looks good for him but the waiting is tough.</p>
<p>S received a letter from one of our state’s senators stating (in essence) that he was highly qualified, but that the Senator’s office had been notified that S had received a nomination from “another source.” The problem is S has received nothing from anyone else. Talk about a teaser…</p>
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<p>What good is a principal nomination then? </p>
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<p>But the USNA does, and they have already triple-qualified him!</p>
<p>Are you sure you know what a principal nomination is?</p>
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<p>I do. </p>
<p>A candidate that was triple q’d, who is now injured, is no longer “cleared” medically, therefore no longer “triple q’d.”
The message to the candidate was to resolve his/her issue promptly, and to follow-through with any additional information requested by DoDMERB equally as promptly, to get the clearance necessary to restore that “triple q’d” status. Until that happens, the candidate, while still designated as a “primary” on the nomination side of the equation, will not be considered for an appointment.</p>
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<p>But that’s not what you posted. You posted this:</p>
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<p>Which is incorrect. Either they are triple q’d or they aren’t.</p>
<p>A principal nomination for a triple q’d candidate IS a guarantee. </p>
<p>If they are injured, they are no longer triple q’d.</p>
<p>^^^^^^^I thought it was relatively obvious that to which navy2010 was referring.</p>
<p>Sigh, here we go again. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Posting…</p>
<p>“A principle nomination, even for those triple q’d, is still not a guarantee.”</p>
<p>…is irresponsible, and incorrect. </p>
<p>A 3 q’d candidate with a principal nomination IS a guarantee, and they WILL get an appointment.</p>