Main Nomination vs Competing Nomination

<p>So Luigi: Once his medical has the remedial removed, he should be good to go, with the appointment? It’s just a broken finger but we felt we were legally obliged to report it to DODMERB. I guess my concern was that they would move to the first alternate on the list if he wasn’t 3 Q’d at the time that the principal nomination comes into their office.</p>

<p>Your best bet with any DODMERB or medical qualification question is to contact Larry Mullen, Deputy Director of DODMERB over at [United</a> States of America Service Academy Forums](<a href=“http://www.serviceacademyforums.com%5DUnited”>http://www.serviceacademyforums.com) - he usually will give you an answer within 24 hours.</p>

<p>Obviously, a candidate with a broken finger is not 3 q’d, but once he is healed and qualified again (or waivered) he will once again be 3 q’d and with his principal nomination, he will receive an appointment.</p>

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<p>Yes, your son needs to wait until he is medically qualified before he will receive his appointment. You were correct in reporting the injury to DODMERB.
Admissions will make every effort to support a candidate who is not qualified when they receive a principle nomination. I suggest your son keep in touch with admissions - they won’t “give away” his appointment for a broken finger just yet.
Keep in mind that if any candidate who receives an appointment and becomes disqualified - the appointment will be revoked. All appointments are conditional until they take the oath on I-day.</p>

<p>I am new to this forum and simply here to learn and benefit…these types of personal comments do absolutely NO GOOD for me and other candidates like me (which I am sure is the overwhelming majority tuning into this forum)</p>

<p>So please, let’s be kind to one another…life is too short…and we all need the help of one another to get through life with the maximum amount of peace, joy and happiness…which is what we all seek and desire</p>

<p>So please, if you feel the urge to “go personal”…X out of CC quickly and don’t return until the feelings of personal recriminations are gone…</p>

<p>Please do, however, share your factual expertise and experience with us, as this is why we candidates come to this forum, to learn…trust us, if there is a disparity in the advise that is being given with the different postings, we are smart enough to assimalte the disparite information and come to our own conclusions on what is right for us…without the help of any personal commentary…</p>

<p>In summary PLEASE STOP!!!</p>

<p>Pasquinel, first off, perhaps, before you commence throwing stones, you should figure out for us who you really are. You have variously identified yourself both as a parent and as a candidate. Only then perhaps will you be taken seriously.</p>

<p>Secondly, there are people in the world who like to watch train wrecks. And, if there is no wreck forthcoming, they will put pennies on the track to attempt to cause one. There are people on this forum with absolutely no ties to the Academy who simply want to do whatever necessary to see a train wreck.</p>

<p>Pasquinel is not a blogger (other than this forum and SA) and WE are using this forum to learn, from others who have experience…</p>

<p>Our interest revolves around LOAs, the nomination process, CVW and PPW.</p>

<p>Now for the personal attacks that go on in this forum…they are totally uncalled for and just plain distracting to those of us who just want to learn from this forum…</p>

<p>Now Mombee, I am not directing this just at you (as you often seem to be the recepient of these personal attacks, and I do find you using some self restraint not to retaliate)…but I would like to repeat my original statement to all on this forum …</p>

<p>IF YOU FIND THE URGE TO “GO PERSONAL” IN ANY REPLY, PLEASE X OUT OF CC, COOL DOWN, AND COME BACK ON WHEN YOU CAN REPLY WITH INFORMATION AND NOT PERSONAL ATTACKS.</p>

<p>We would all benefit from this kind of approach…and will be helpful to all…</p>

<p>Pasquinel signing off from this topic…</p>

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In all seriousness, you should be very cautious about “advice” received concerning these issues - especially LOA’s and the nomination process on an anonymous internet forum.
The folks you should be asking your questions are in the Admissions office.<br>
They know each candidates personal record and can advice accurately accordingly.</p>

<p>WIth all due respect to Justamom, I would suggest directing specific questions to your BGO.
If you do not get a satisfactory response, contact the regional director.
If still in question, contact the admissions office.
They have plenty of work on their plate right now, so use the avenues available to you.
CC included.
There are many parents who have “been there, done that,” alumni, current Mids and BGOs [and combinations of the same] on here that offer very sound advice. If you have a particular question as to “who is who,” then “ask.” But in matters that are very specific to your own application, never circumvent your own BGO- they are your avenue to the admissions office.</p>

<p>Luigi59- perhaps I can expand on my point made earlier, as I can see where it may have been misleading.
triple q’d with principle nomination- very well should get nomination. However, there are other pieces that can factor into that- including negative BGO interviews and/or teacher recs that may be received by USNA following the Triple q’d letter. It happens.</p>

<p>A principle nom that is no longer triple-q’d may lose that principle slot depending on timing- in this particular case, should not be an issue- a finger heals quickly. But much will depend on when that MOCs candidates come up for review- if the principle has not been cleared by then, the second on the list will be looked at. Put in the category that time and tide wait for no man.</p>

<p>The one thing I have learned, if anything, is NOT to count on anything until 1. the appointment arrives, 2. the candidate is processed [successfully] on I-Day, and 3. the Midshipman receives that commission at the end of 4 years. Anything and everything can happen between #1 and #3- and in the end, it is that commission that matters. EVERYTHING else is secondary, optional and conditional, and one is wise to remember that. </p>

<p>If one is focused on the nomination, it is, IMO, the wrong place to concentrate ones efforts. It is what it is.</p>

<p>If, on the other hand, the goal is to become an officer in the United States Navy, then I would suggest the candidate focus on how to achieve that end- be it through USNA, ROTC, or Officer Training. THAT should be the goal. The wise candidate will have several plans in place to reach that end, and not have all their eggs in one basket.</p>

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I have to go with JAM on this one. About screen #6 of the CGIS, it specifically states that if one has questions, after checking the linked FAQs, to email their regional director. They have the candidate record and they have the answers. Initial BGO training is just sufficient, in most cases, not to be dangerous. Sure they are busy but this is their job. Do as they say. Follow their instructions. Contact them with your questions.</p>

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I would never trust anything from a forum. Parents, alumni, and current mids often have a very limited parochial view which often is not applicable to the extent that they think it is. Use the forum perhaps for ideas but, for anything important, confirm with the Admissions office.</p>

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BGO interviews and teacher recs are a part of the initial triple qual and, therefore, would never be used to revoke it. Getting in trouble of some type or poor grades, in addition to the aforementioned medical issues, could, however, be an issue. Perhaps you were thinking of the very few LOAs which are awarded without full submittals.</p>

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This isn’t the way it works. Candidates are reviewed depending on their competitiveness when their packages become complete, not as a group. When the slate is sumitted and when all the packages have completed review, WPM totals are simply ranked and the candidate with the greatest WPM is awarded the nomination. Nominations for candidates requiring medical waivers, so long as progress is normal, will normally be held until I-Day. Time and tide will wait.</p>

<p>My broken finger son received an invite to CVW today. He will definitely attend and either his Dad or I will go along. We are excited! He has the principal nomination and as you remember, was triple q’d until the break. We see the doc in a about a week and hope for clearance then!</p>

<p>dittoes to momb. JAM has this one right. BGO’s as a group are laudable volunteers. As such, there is no accountability to your specific case, only generally, should they fail in their desire to assist USNA. </p>

<p>And if you need reliable, genuine information, this forum can guide and as you’re rapidly discovering, just as quickly and more convincingly, confuse.</p>

<p>So the truth is simple and short: If you really want/need to know, ask those who are employed and charged to inform you. And it’s not my fellow posters nor BGOs. These range from amazing to awful to AWOL. </p>

<p>And should you doubt this observation, simply re-read any myriad of threads on this forum. It’s fair to believe most have the best of intentions. Many go beyond the call. Some are miserably equipped or unable to perform. And so, again, if you or someone you value is depending on sound, timely information, pick up the phone and call the Academy. After all, you and/or your taxpaying parents and pals pay every last one of them. They work for YOU!</p>

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<p>That is exactly what I was referring to. Thank you for elaborating on the point.</p>