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Dual enrollment is a college level course offered at one's high school, taught by h.s. faculty with curriculum & text following exactly the same course taught at the college campus.
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<p>The dual enrollment courses at S's high school are taught by a university professor. One has to pay for the privilege, as one is technically enrolled as a student in the university. The courses are taught at the high school, though.</p>
<p>Don't laugh about big closets. One school we toured had huge closets & my fashion obsessed D was impressed.</p>
<p>D is a h.s. jr. The parents were invited to an info session about the dual enrollment program. The U representative handed out a list of colleges that have acepted these credits. He said they are accepted at 90% of colleges in the US. The list included a wide range of schools, from ivy to obscure. He made it clear that policies can change at any time. So even though we knew that the same course D is taking has been accepted by a particular college, it may not be accepted by the time she would be enrolling. I also learned that some colleges required the girls to take the AP exam in the corresponding subject or would not grant credit. (Actually, I think that's the requirement at BC, but I'm not totally sure.) So we only are taking a chance that the credits will count. The $200 fee per course is a tiny fraction of what we've paid in tuition all these years, so we thought we'd go for it. She'd take these courses anyway, whether we completed the dual enrollment paperwork or not.</p>
<p>The U issues the girls a student ID and gives them full privleges at the U.</p>
<p>Our classes for PSEO and CIS are free of charge. We also get a U of MN ID and official transcript from the university.</p>
<p>Let's further muddy the water. Here's what Vandy says today.
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Joint/Dual Enrollment – These programs allow students to receive college credit while in high school. Vanderbilt does accept some dual enrollment credits (they cannot count toward high school diploma requirements, they must be taken at the college, and the class must be taught by a professor).
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<p>Be careful out there.</p>
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Had my D been given credit for her courses and her AP's she'd have entered a junior.
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<p>So now that she's gotten some college under her belt, does she think 'retaking' those classes is good policy? I'm asking because I assume the courses taught at a quality university are more rigorous.</p>
<p>Her school, like many , is pretty adamant about you not using AP credit (since they give no dual credit) in your major fields. They want you to be trained their way. D would tell you that the difference between getting a 4 or 5 on the AP Test and her intro classes is the difference between petting a kitten and a cougar. </p>
<p>Folks, I'm googling a bit waiting for a call and I'm finding lots of schools mentioned that (according to the links) don't take dual credit. I have searched a bit further and some pop up quickly.
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<p>It is ever changing, Curmudgeon. You pays your money & you takes your chances. I'd put the changes in the same category of colleges bumping up the AP score for credit to a five, when once fours were accepted. </p>
<p>As far as comparing the rigor of an AP course to the intro courses your D took: I see the AP as the equivalent of taking a pass/fail college intro course. Your D was shooting for As in her courses. A bit of coasting, which doesn't seem to be her nature, would have brought down the intensity a bit and landed a B or C. AP will award a five for a fairly low percentage of correct answers. (Isn't US history something like 65 or 70%?) At D's h.s. many of the classes have 100% of the girls earning fives on the AP, but certainly not 100% earning As. The AP grading rubric is far less challenging than the school's own.</p>
<p>Sometimes all isn't lost even if your university doesn't accept your credits. Students applying to law school can submit this course work to LSAC via cc/uni transcripts and it may(should) end up improving their overall GPA. I don't know if this applies to applications for other professional or graduate programs though.</p>
<p>Yep. 2VU, It works just fine for med school. Amcas adds them right in (requires them actually). Just remember to send the transcript from the school at which you earned the credit.</p>
<p>"there is little incentive for universities to seek great transfer students from community colleges . . ."</p>
<p>I disagree wholeheartedly. Due to socioeconomic disadvantages and other implications, there are plenty of extremely bright CC students who could contribute greatly to a university in other ways but rankings, as well as to the community in the future in general.</p>
<p>Too bad universities now only care about a list.</p>
<p>SD Mom, the antecdotal evidence that my college gets from our regional university indicates that our students perform as well, if not better, than their "homegrown" students. Unfortunately, what drives the train for many public institutions is the competition for limited state funding dollars and their investment in recruiting is largely based on recruiting those who will enroll as freshmen. Little emphasis is made on recruiting/transitioning cc students in my area of the country because of the bleak economic picture. I can't be completely critical because I live in a state where there are significant funding cuts for all higher education institutions during the upcoming fiscal year. The largest cost for any educational institution is largely staffing and escalating costs for employee health care mean that even without granting cost of living increases to faculty/staff, administrators are forced to chase the funding that will help their schools to survive this rough patch.</p>
<p>Keep in mind that some schools will not take college credits that the student earned as non-matiriculated student and some schools will not accept credits the student has taken before s/he has matriculated at a particular school.</p>
<p>ZM,</p>
<p>Does Zoosersister's school offer College Now which is offered through CUNY (I know that NYU also had a college now program)? She would take courses at what ever CUNY school the school was affiliated with for free and should she decide to attend CUNY, they would count as credit. College now courses are also fee to the student.</p>
<p>College</a> Now: A Free Program for NYC Public High School Students</p>
<p>I know a number of students from my generation and the current one who have taken community college courses that did not prepare them for college courses that have prerequisites that the cc courses should have covered. It happens too often. Colleges are well aware and some have become wary of wasting the students' time and money when the chances are waaay low that those students are going to be able to make it in an upper level course.</p>
<p>cptofthehouse - agreed.<br>
Not all CC's are created equal by any means.
A good one should have a transfer center and be able to show you articulation agreements and to where recent students have transferred.</p>
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<p>you are sooo right. </p>
<p>I have a student who turned down a number of 4 year programs because she was accepted to the Serrano Scholars program at Hostos Community College because it includes two years of study at the School of General Studies (GS) for a Bachelor’s degree and two years at the School of International Affairs (SIPA) for the Master’s program.</p>
<p>Office</a> of Academic Affairs - Serrano Scholars</p>
<p>Conell has a number of articulation agreements with community colleges in the state.</p>
<p>I have a student who turned down a 4 year school with limited FA because they were accepted into the College Discovery program at a CUNY CC (book vouchers, counseling, support services, etc). Once you are in college discovery, it converts to SEEK at the CUNY level, EOP at the SUNY level and HEOP at private schools in NYS (couple of students have gone from CUNY CC to NYU fully funded through HEOP). If you attend a SUNY graduate program, you are able to continue to receive services.</p>