Manchester or London - Studying in the UK?

<p>So I plan studying abroad in England next year and I wanted to get some feedback about these Universities: University of Manchester, King's College London and Queen Mary University of London.</p>

<p>I just wanted some information and/or feedback regarding my top choices. Some questions that I have are:</p>

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<li><p>Which University has more of a formal campus?</p></li>
<li><p>Which University has an excellent Social Atmosphere? Great Nightlife/Party Scene? (I'm a party animal and I'm always looking to have fun!)</p></li>
<li><p>Are students scattered among the city? Or is there a certain area that is densely populated with students attending the university? (I want to assimilate myself within the student population and meet local students.)</p></li>
<li><p>What would be a better housing option for me? (I'm 21 and I want to live with people closer to my age rather than first year students.)</p></li>
<li><p>Which University has a better reputation? (I'm going for one semester so this is definitely not a factor in my decision, but I'm just curious.) </p></li>
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<p>Are there any other Pros / Cons about these Universities?</p>

<p>Just thought I'd ask some locals or people that have had experience there. Any information would help!! Thanks!!! :D</p>

<p>There’s another thread that you might find interesting on KCL vs Manchester <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/united-kingdom/1431479-kings-manchester-computer-science.html#post15204580[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/united-kingdom/1431479-kings-manchester-computer-science.html#post15204580&lt;/a&gt; </p>

<p>I’m a current Manchester student, so clearly my knowledge of Manchester is better, but I’ll answer as best as I can! </p>

<p>I just wanted some information and/or feedback regarding my top choices. Some questions that I have are:</p>

<p>1. Which University has more of a formal campus?
Truth be told, I’m not entirely sure what you mean by this - if you want pretty buildings, then Manchester is largely comprised of modern buildings, with the exception of Whitworth Building (known to many as Hogwarts!) There are two academic campuses, but they are 200m apart, so they’re pretty much the same campuses. Accommodation is spread across the academic campus, Victoria Park (1 mile away) and Fallowfield (two miles away, but very well served by buses). </p>

<p>2. Which University has an excellent Social Atmosphere? Great Nightlife/Party Scene? (I’m a party animal and I’m always looking to have fun!)
London has a lot of nightlife, but it’s relatively expensive. Manchester has less nightlife, but it’s still meant to be one of the best places in the UK to go out, and there’s so much here that there’s no way I will ever manage to go to it all in my three years here. Apparently Manchester students are the second heaviest drinkers in the Russell Group (losing out marginally to UCL!) [Manchester</a> students named ‘second biggest drinkers’ in Russell Group > The Mancunion](<a href=“http://mancunion.com/2012/11/21/manchester-students-second-biggest-drinkers-in-the-russell-group/]Manchester”>http://mancunion.com/2012/11/21/manchester-students-second-biggest-drinkers-in-the-russell-group/)</p>

<p>3. Are students scattered among the city? Or is there a certain area that is densely populated with students attending the university? (I want to assimilate myself within the student population and meet local students.)
At Manchester, students tend to live in Fallowfield, and surrounding areas like Withington, Rusholme, Ladybarn, Longsight, Levenshulme, Victoria Park, Didsbury and (for the braver ones) Moss Side. It tends to create a ‘student village’ feel, especially in Fallowfield. </p>

<p>London students tend to find tha thousing near their universities is too expensive, because central London is incredibly expensive to live in. So, they look further out, and that tends to mean that they are more scattered. </p>

<p>4. What would be a better housing option for me? (I’m 21 and I want to live with people closer to my age rather than first year students.)
There are two main options for you - halls or a house share. </p>

<p>In halls, you will primarily be living with first year students, but they won’t necessarily be 18 year olds. Gap years (i.e. taking a year out between school and uni to work and travel) are very common, so many first year students in halls will be 19 / 20. This was the case for half of the eight people in my flat in halls, for instance. People who have had gap years and people who have not socialise perfectly, so I don’t think that you’d necessarily have problems living with first years - many of whom will only be a year younger than you. If you do go for halls, then make sure you live in Fallowfield, which has the liveliest halls available. The major advantages of halls is that they are of universally good standard (no damp!) the university is a good landlord, which gives peace of mind, and you don’t have to faff about with stuff like bills. </p>

<p>However, if you want a house share then have a look at Manchester Student Homes, where people often advertise spare rooms in houses (privately rented houses, shared with friends, are the normal way that second and third year students live). However, there are many shyster landlords out there, and the quality is very variable, so you will want to view the house & meet housemates before you move in. If you do go down this route, then make sure that you only sign a contract for the period that you will actually be there. If you’re going in first semester, don’t be taken in by the idea that you will be able to find another student to take your place for second semester. It’s almost impossible to find replacement students, and if (when!) you don’t find a replacement student, the landlord will take you to court for the remaining money, and win, should you not pay up. </p>

<p>5. Which University has a better reputation? (I’m going for one semester so this is definitely not a factor in my decision, but I’m just curious.)
They’re all excellent, but I would say that Manchester is marginally better than KCL, and both are a bit (but not drastically) better than QMUL. </p>

<p>Are there any other Pros / Cons about these Universities?
London is incredibly expensive to live in. If you wanted to live in Central London (where KCL is) in a shared house then you would be looking at an absolute minimum of £200 per week ($325) for rent, with bills on top of that. East London, where QMUL is, is a bit cheaper, but not such a nice area. In contrast, I pay £80pw ($130) + bills for a lovely big double bedroom in a shared house in Manchester, and there is cheaper accommodation available. </p>

<p>If you want to visit other places in the UK (and Europe) then both Manchester and London are very well connected - for instance, it’s only 2 hours on the train from Manchester to London, and both have international airport(s).</p>

<p>Thanks soo much for the all of the details boomting!! You made my day lol!</p>

<p>But I was curious as to if I do choose to live in Fallowfield, Oak House to be exact, will there still be other second and third year students living there?</p>

<p>Also are other students in Manchester open to making new friends? For example, in my classes, outside of classes? Or are they more reserved? (I don’t really want to spend my entire semester with other American students, not that they’re bad or anything, I just want to immerse myself with British students and the British University Atmosphere.)</p>

<p>Oh and does the University have a decent gym? Or will I have to get a membership from a gym outside of the school? (I’m really big on lifting! :D)</p>

<p>There are relatively few second and third years living in halls in general, but that’s because people normally move out into shared houses with the people that they met whilst living in halls in first year. I really enjoyed my time in Oak House though, you will meet other people from outside halls, and I’m willing to bet that you will be able to make friends with first years :slight_smile: Fallowfield is dominated by Britons, whereas City campus tends to attract more international students, so if you want to immerse yourself in British student life, then Fallowfield is the place to do it. </p>

<p>Yes, students are open to making new friends. This especially applies to first years in first semester - they don’t know anyone else either, so everyone’s in the same boat and eager to make friends. There are normally three main sources of friends - halls, societies and your course. Some courses are better than others for making friends. You’ll always meet lots of people in halls, and Oak House is one of the most sociable halls around. There are lots of societies on offer at Manchester (and KCL, and QMUL), and they offer a great way to meet people with whom you have something in common. Last year there was an American exchange student who joined the same society as me, they made lots of friends and we were sad to see them leave
[SPORT</a> Manchester | Athletic Union](<a href=“http://www.sport.manchester.ac.uk/athletic-union]SPORT”>UoM Sport | Athletic Union Awards 2020)
[University</a> of Manchester Students’ Union](<a href=“http://manchesterstudentsunion.com/groups#club-society#academic]University”>http://manchesterstudentsunion.com/groups#club-society#academic)</p>

<p>The university has two gyms - Armitage Centre (right next to Oak House) and the Sugden Centre (on the academic campus). There’s also an Olympic sized swimming pool that was built for the 2002 Commonwealth Games at the Aquatics Centre. I have weightlifting friends at both Armitage and Sugden, but I have heard that Sugden is better. Gyms aren’t my thing though, by any means, so I’m going to struggle to give you much more detail than that!</p>

<p>Thanks again boomting!!!</p>

<p>I think I’ll join a few societies to get to know other students and I’ll also be checking out the gyms! :D</p>

<p>So, Rambo, how was the semester abroad? It seems like you mentioned you are a CS major and it sounds like you ended up at Manchester - my D is likely going to do a year abroad at Manchester and is a CS major so I am rather curious how your time was. She will also be 20 during this time and curious about your info regarding housing as she also will want to immerse with the English kids and definitely enjoys a good party.</p>

<p>I guess you could not have done it this semester - but hoping you have.</p>

<p>@MaidenMom - Rambo hasn’t gone on study abroad yet, but I’m currently sat about 1.5 miles away from the university :wink: </p>

<p>In terms of housing (aka halls) I’d suggest living somewhere in Fallowfield - especially Oak House or Owen’s Park, but also Woolton Hall, Richmond Park or Sheavyn House. </p>

<p>You might like to have a look at The Student Room, which is like the UK version of CC, and it includes a U o Manchester-specific forum.</p>

<p>Totally cool, boomting!!! Thanks for the link!</p>

<p>@maidenMom, sorry I haven’t been on in a long time, just busy with school work. I’m actually an International Studies major, so I don’t know much about CS. However, I just received my housing offer and it is university housing at Oak House. I’m going to accept it and hope for the best.</p>

<p>I know it’s been a while since you’ve posted, but did you daughter select Manchester to study abroad in? And if so, what did she do about housing?</p>