<p>MMC Help!!! </p>
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<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Im a senior in high school amd i want to audition for MMC in NY and one of there request is that you have to sing a song from a musical before the 1970’s. And reading the discussions and ethinic song chioce. So can some one help an african american MT student. P.S. im a male and baritone / 2nd tenor.
Thanks!!!</p>
<p>Wanna<em>Bt</em>MT_Star first posted the following post on the Welcome thread which was not really the best place and so I delected it there and am reposting it below as I think having a new thread on Marymount Manhattan is the way to go. </p>
<p>Here is that post from earlier today:</p>
<p>"Hi im new on here so i hope this gets read!!!!</p>
<p>Im VERY interstead in Marymount Manhatten College in NY. It has everything i want in a school, but i dont hear to much about it so could someone help me by giving info on them and want they produce in the years thanks so MUCH!!!!!!!"</p>
<p>Remember when you want to post about a topic, first see if there is an existing thread on it and if not, create a new thread.</p>
<p>Welcome Wanna Be...</p>
<p>CollegeMom</p>
<p>I have a former student who is a freshman there now. She is an acting major, but they also offer a MT minor, which is an interesting option. It just requires an additional vocal audition.
MM is a great choice for kids who want to be in NYC.</p>
<p>I had one student get an acceptance at the North Texas Drama auditions in Dallas a few weeks ago. Their staff ia very professional and friendly. they have recruited for years at the Booker T. Washington Performing Arts H.S. in Dallas with great results.</p>
<p>Be sure you read their web site carelfullty about room/board housing costs.</p>
<p>Good luck</p>
<p>xxx,Mary Anna</p>
<p>Trying to get information on Marymounts audition and others perception of their program.</p>
<p>My daughter auditioned there in November. Their auditions were run as a group. All the kids were called in together and they got to see each others performance which could be helpful or stressfull. We got there at about 10:30 and they did their songs as a group and then there was a 1 1/2 hour break for lunch. This was followed by an information session and then the monologue part of the audition. There was no dance audition. It is a reasonable program not as competitive as most of the others mentioned on this forum. LOcation is nice. They do have some liberal arts requirments.One problem .I have heard is they may admit more kids than they have performing oppurtunities for. 2 kids from my daughters high school have gone there and this is feedback from them. However they both have been happy there. My duaghter also feels she could be happy there. They have to accept you academically before they accept you into the program. They have rolling admission and said that there first program acceptances will be sent out Jan 6. They offer academic scholarship money, talent scholarship as well as need based aid. If you have more specific questions let me know.</p>
<p>Thanks for the info. This school is high on my D's list so I am trying to gather as much intell as I can.</p>
<p>I didn't know a lot about MMC until recently when a friend of my D was researching it. It's a theatre arts B.A. or an acting BFA, not MT. The MT is through a minor concentration only. Both the BA and the BFA programs require an audition. The BFA students must maintain a 3.0 gpa in their theatre arts classes in order to remain in the BFA program.</p>
<p>MMC is a fairly small school on the Upper East Side of Manhattan. It's a liberal arts-focussed college and is housed in two buildings. One thing you might want to keep in mind is that the housing is nowhere near the actual buildings which house the school. This is unappealing to some prospective students.</p>
<p>josie, I've heard similar complaints to those made by your D's friends. However, I think, from what I understand, the real problem lies in the school not doing a sufficient number of varied productions. It seems to be only two mainstage shows each semester and very few performance opportunities other than those. The other problem which I found was that it was very difficult to get a sample curriculum from them. There wasn't one listed on the website as most schools have, and my D's friend emailed them and phoned twice requesting a detailed curriculum and she has yet to receive it. Did you happen to get one when your D auditioned?</p>
<p>I know pretty much what AlwaysAMom knows and posted. My D did not apply there. I have a client I'm currently counseling who is an applicant there. My girls' have a local friend who is a talented dancer who auditioned there for dance but did not get in dance but is attending anyway, I think due to academics and limited options. This summer I met a girl from our region who was a lead in a professional production my D was in. This girl had gone to MM for MT but transferred out along the lines of what I'm reading now, and is at a college in our state in theater but it is a BA program and not MT though I guess she got a scholarship and feels she has more opportunities. </p>
<p>I have recommended MM to students who want a BFA program, though it is not a BFA in MT but there is a minor concentration in it, who want to be in NYC and whose academic profiles may make other BFA programs a stretch, plus MM's selectivity in terms of the audition element is a bit "easier", though by no means EASY, than BFA programs with stronger applicant pools. I think my D knows a boy who is a freshman now in the program, someone she performed with when younger (quite talented back then) at her theater camp, who didn't have a strong academic profile, and nor does my client. For certain students, this school is one to explore. </p>
<p>Susan</p>
<p>Hi, josiemax
I auditioning in feb. did your daughter go to their school to audition. And did you take a tour. I want to major in Production and Management and minor in MT do you know how that works.</p>
<p>I am not sure that is correct about having to be accepted academically beforehand. My NOCCA student has been accepted in theatre before even applying.</p>
<p>xxx,Mary Anna</p>
<p>Just wanted to say that I actually go to Marymount, and would be happy to answer any questions.</p>
<p>I'm currently a freshmen BA acting major and doing the MT minor. Based on my one semester here, I'm liking it a lot. There are a lot of really great teachers here, many with great connections (A friend of mine who went here mentioned to one of his teachers that he'd love to just have a meeting with Stephen Sondheim to ask him questions about his shows. A few phone calls later he has his meeting with Sondheim and then worked as his assistant for awhile). The MT is a minor, yes, but it is growing (they're adding more dance and singing classes next year, with more to come in future years) and the woman who runs it, Pat Simon, is quite amazing (and has plenty of connections herself being married to John Simon, the critic).</p>
<p>Performance opportunities can be a bit limited in the school itself, but if you're a BA student (which most MT people are) you're allowed to do shows outside of school. Lots of my friends who are upperclassmen have done this and made a lot of good connections in New York.</p>
<p>As far as academics, I've found them to be harder than I expected. I had a 3.8 GPA in high school with plenty of APs and honors classes and my classes here are just as difficult, if not more so, than high school.</p>
<p>Someone mentioned housing being far away. It's not, really. I live in the 55th street residence hall which is the closest to the school at 16 blocks south. It's about a 10-15 minute walk to school, not bad at all. The other residence halls are down on 47th street and up on 92nd street.</p>
<p>Like I said, I'm more than happy to answer questions.</p>
<p>Mary Anna Actually they did tell us at the information session that you had to be accepted academically first and someone there brought up that someone was accepted in Texas by audition. They never really answered how that happened.</p>
<p>Wanna_Be We did audition at the school. We also visited a year ago and did the tour then. Thee school is physically pretty small mostly in one building. There are 2 dorms one at 55th street and the other at 92nd street. They did not offer tours of the dorms just showed us photos. I really dont know much about production there My D is applying in Acting with A MT minor. So we didnt listen to the production info. Sorry.</p>
<p>Oscarj, welcome. Perhaps you could provide what my D's friend has been trying so hard to get from MMC? A detailed curriculum. Could you tell us what classes you're taking this year and the number of hours in each? You must be a very fast walker if you can do 16 blocks in 10-15 minutes. ;) Is housing guaranteed there for all four years? I've heard from two students that this is a problem.</p>
<p>Josie, I think you may have misunderstood what I meant by productions. I'm sure your D would be interested in that info if she is going to be applying for Acting with an MT minor. Productions just means the number of shows available to the students, performance opportunities. Also, did they give you a copy of the curriculum during your information session?</p>
<p>Actually I was replying to Wanna_Be who was interested in majoring in Production and Management. They did not give us a copy of the curriculum. They did talk about the difference between the BFA and the BA. The BFA in acting was more classically focused ie Shakespeare.</p>
<p>Sorry for the misunderstanding, Josie. I missed Wanna_Be's post. :) It seems very difficult to get a copy of the actual curriculum there for some strange reason. I would recommend that if your D is truly interested in MMC, that you make sure you get one before you accept an offer. I'd recommend this to anyone of every school they're auditioning for, it's perhaps the single most important part of the research that should be done.</p>
<p>We will get a curriculum. I know she has talked extensively to the girl from her high school who just graduated. So I think she has pretty good idea of what it is like but she hasnt shared details with me. We are just at the beginning of the audition process. She has done 2 and has 7 more scheduled and I am periodically panicking that she wont get in anywhere.</p>
<p>Josie,
That's interesting. I guess they were referring to my student. </p>
<p>All I can assume is that any acceptance based on audition is always contingent upon academic acceptance. It seems some of these schools can and do accept on talent before academics but both criteria have to be met eventually.</p>
<p>I did have a student get in the BFA in acting at USC and then get rejected academically. I was told my a USC rep that that is very unusal.</p>
<p>thanks for the info.
xxx,Mary Anna</p>
<p>OscarJ,
what ever happened to the plan to move the theater dept north (around 103rd street, if I remember correctly? or correct me on this) away from the main campus? This was being discussed when my D auditioned there last year. </p>
<p>If they are not moving now, do they have other plans as the theater dept outgrows the main campus site?</p>
<p>thanks!</p>
<p>Could it be that these "admissions" offers at these "audition" events (ie. NET auditions in Texas) are of the nature that..."we want you in the BFA program but it is contingent upon acceptance to the university." ? Such as....you passed the artistic/audition review but must now go through admissions? The difference here is the student is actually being told that as opposed to at an on campus audition, where the faculty reviewing BFA candidates wants someone and then submits those names to the admissions office who decides whether or not to admit. In the latter scenario (which is basically what is happening at many of these colleges), the student just never FINDS out they passed the artistic review. They simply get an acceptance or denial. What it sounds like to me in these cases that Mary Anna is discussing in Texas with MM or with USC or wherever, that they were told they would be accepted to the BFA programs (or whatever acting/MT program the school has) but they still must get accepted to the college. So, that is not exactly the same as "an acceptance" to attend. I'm inferring this from the various posts, though have no experience with these Texas auditions. It is not unusual to be "accepted" or to "pass review" by the artistic faculty but not to be accepted academically at a school, but it is just that most people don't find that out like these Texas kids who are in a two step type of process. But lots of kids have talent but not the academic qualifications. Otherwise, schools would not bother with the written applications and scores, transcripts, etc.</p>
<p>If you recall NewMTMom's D last year, whose D had been rejected at all her BFA programs, who then auditioned for the BA in MT program at American and she first was accepted by the MT faculty for the program following her audition but academically, she was not going to be accepted at one point. With various interventions that I do not recall, she eventually was accepted academically. At many schools my D auditioned at, they explained that following auditions, after they picked who they wanted, the names get submitted to the admissions office who then review the applicants. I recall that very statement at Ithaca and Penn State, as some examples. At NYU ,the artistic and academic review are each 50% and both processes are going on at the same time. At UMich, you pass academic review just to be invited to audition. At various schools my D did NOT apply to but are being talked about on these forums, there is a two step process where applicants find out if they are accepted academically sometimes before they even attend the audition such as Baldwin Wallace, Otterbein, Point Park. </p>
<p>In any case, using the word "accepted" at these Texas auditions, is likely not the accurate way to describe it if it is contingent on academic acceptance. Obviously some schools' academic review is at a very low bar and some students would practically "know" if they could surpass it but at others, there is more to the academic review, such as USC. </p>
<p>Susan</p>