Matches for an ordinary student?

<p>Being Asian isn’t a URM at many popular schools. </p>

<p>At publics, it won’t likely matter at all, since ethnicity isn’t typically allowed to be considered.</p>

<p>At the privates that you’ve mentioned, being Asian is not a URM. Typically, at the popular privates, Asians are ORMs.</p>

<p>Asians are URMs at schools that don’t have a high Asian population attending…such as at some southern schools, some midwest LACs, etc.</p>

<p>^^ NYU will gap the OP (terrible FA). And the OP should keep at least one SUNY on as a safety.</p>

<p>My guidance counselor/college advisor aren’t very helpful. They both have hundreds of students, so they don’t really have time to sit down and chat. </p>

<p>and yeah, I know being Asian is not a URM. I meant it doesn’t take account the stats of the black, hispanic people in my school (20% of class) so it’s kind of misleading for the schools where there aren’t that many apps because I don’t know who applied. </p>

<p>@informative, thanks for the list. I’ll take a look into it. :]
I’m not sure northeastern or any of those schools would give me sufficient aid though, except for JHU. :O</p>

<p>Does JHU meet need?</p>

<p>I’m not sure of your chances at JHU. I realize that you hope to do better next month on your SAT, but as you can see from the past, sometimes you can go up in one area, go down in another, or stay the same.</p>

<p>SAT superscore : 730/700/660 (2090). Single sitting : 730/670/660(2060). One more time in Oct, W and M will improve. (hopefully to 2200+)</p>

<pre><code>JHU Middle 50% of First-Year Students
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<p>SAT Critical Reading: … 630 - 730<br>
SAT Math: … 670 - 770<br>
SAT Writing: … 650 - 730<br>
ACT Composite: … 29 - 33</p>

<p>I would imagine that Northeastern would provide much more aid than JHU.</p>

<p>^ Uh, no. The CDS shows that JHU averages about $10K more per year in need based grants. JHU meets about 98% of need, Northeastern about 67%.</p>

<p>Try to go through Questbridge to apply for those schools in the program. Questbridge will meet all needs plus more.</p>

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<p>Not true. According to the National Science Foundation, out of the top 20 colleges and universities where science Ph.D.s received their bachelor’s, nine are LACs (Harvey Mudd, Reed, Swarthmore, Carleton, Grinnell, Bryn Mawr, Pomona, Williams, Oberlin). Of the schools you listed, only one, Johns Hopkins, is in the top 20 for undergraduate origins of science Ph.D.s. And it’s below all the LACs I listed.</p>

<p>What are your financial safety schools?</p>

<p>Single sitting : 730/670/660(2060).</p>

<p>Which is Math, which is CR, which is writing?</p>

<p>“^ Uh, no. The CDS shows that JHU averages about $10K more per year in need based grants. JHU meets about 98% of need, Northeastern about 67%.”</p>

<p>But this applicant is likely to get merit aid out of Northeastern but not much out of JHU. The difference could likely make a difference.</p>

<p>“According to the National Science Foundation, out of the top 20 colleges and universities where science Ph.D.s received their bachelor’s, nine are LACs (Harvey Mudd, Reed, Swarthmore, Carleton, Grinnell, Bryn Mawr, Pomona, Williams, Oberlin).”</p>

<p>Yes, the Liberal Arts label misleads many; they are leaders in undergrad hard science, but many don’t offer undergrad engineering degrees. An LAC is more properly called a college of liberal arts and sciences.</p>

<p>When a school says they meet need, as big chunk of that could be loans.</p>

<p>Yes, check a school’s Common Data Set (google can find it if it’s published) section H2 m) to see how much need is met with loans. It should be no more than $5000 (per year) to be legitimately considered part of meeting full need. Schools may offer additional loans to help pay the EFC, but this isn’t part of meeting need.</p>

<p>Also check section H5 to see the average per-undergraduate-borrower cumulative principal borrowed; it should be about four times H2 m).</p>

<p>*When a school says they meet need, as big chunk of that could be loans. *</p>

<p>Yes, and that can be shocking to some families who thought that need would be met with grants, and that the student could help with EFC with a student loan.</p>

<p>Also…there are some schools that consider including Plus loans in their FA package as “meeting need.” That is sooo not true because some parents have no intention or ability to take out Plus loans.</p>

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<p>Have you considered Lafayette College? Good financial and merit aid ( [Lafayette</a> Scholarships Tuition & Aid Lafayette College](<a href=“http://finaid.lafayette.edu/financing-your-education/types-of-financial-aid/scholarships/]Lafayette”>http://finaid.lafayette.edu/financing-your-education/types-of-financial-aid/scholarships/) ), pretty campus, PA Lehigh Valley (~ 1.5 hr drive to either NYC or Philly), 2400 undergrads, neuroscience ( [Neuroscience[/url</a>] ), biochemistry ( [url=<a href=“http://chemistry.lafayette.edu/]Department”>http://chemistry.lafayette.edu/]Department</a> of Chemistry: Chemistry Home](<a href=“http://neuroscience.lafayette.edu/]Neuroscience[/url”>http://neuroscience.lafayette.edu/) )</p>

<p>How do you figure out if the school would likely give you Merit Scholarships?</p>

<p>janjan…sending you a PM since your question is probably about your own situation. :)</p>

<p>I’ll definitely take check out lafayette. :]
730 - CR, 700 - math, and 660- writing. I think that’s the highest I can get for my CR score but my math and writing will def improve. (studied all summer long with the BB)</p>

<p>I thought schools that met need guaranteed no loans if your family made under a certain amount? </p>

<p>@artlovers, I was going to but I found out relatively late, and there were lots of issues with teacher recs, etc. and essays so I prob won’t make the deadline.</p>

<p>“*I thought schools that met need guaranteed no loans if your family made under a certain amount? *”</p>

<p>There’s no single rule for all schools. Call the school to find out; they’ll tell you!</p>