Math 217 or 215?

<p>Would it be possible to take Math 217 and skip or do 215 later.</p>

<p>I really would like to take Linear Algebra as my first math class at Princeton. And it's taught by John Conway.</p>

<p>Yes it’s possible.</p>

<p>Yes! Thank you! </p>

<p>So I would take 217/sit in 215 to learn but not for credit since fall semester freshman year a student cannot take 2 math classes.</p>

<p>Then second semester I would do 218 for credit and some other math class.</p>

<p>Also while Conway is an awesome person I didn’t think he was that good of a teacher - not that he was a bad teacher, just not that great of one.</p>

<p>Why exactly do you wanna take 217 first? It’s a pretty boring course compared to 215, and Sarnak (the 215 professor) is in my opinion a better teacher than Conway. You’ll be able to do it if you want, but expect some resistance from your academic adviser.</p>

<p>Should I take 215 first semester then 217 and 218 second semester? Is that the typical math major route for freshmen? Or do they skip some classes?</p>

<p>Do any freshmen go past the 200 courses in their first year?</p>

<p>The typical path is to take 215 freshman fall, 217 freshman spring, and 218 sophomore fall. Some advanced students (USAMO, etc.) skip one or two of these courses. These students take 300 level courses their freshman year. Normal students usually start taking 300 level courses sophomore fall.</p>

<p>Yah, like what would be the main difference between Math 215 Analysis is a Single Variable and Math 314 Intro to Real Analysis?</p>

<p>Are there freshmen who start straight at 314? It seems kinda unlikely given the prereqs to be 215 and 218…so how flexible is the math department with prereqs?</p>

<p>Isn’t MAT 314 mainly for either non-math majors or math majors who didn’t take the 215-217-218 honors sequence?</p>

<p>You should probably just talk with the math department when you get here to determine your placement. They’re generally pretty good about these things.</p>

<p>I just noticed that ICE is now up and running. So I plugged in MAT215 and it’s showing that classes are MWF at wither 10 or 11, while the registrar says that C01 is at 11 on TTh and that the C02 section, originally scheduled on MWF at 11, was canceled. Does anyone know for sure which offerings are correct or how I could find out?</p>

<p>Derivate, not many math majors take 314. It’s more common to take 332 to fulfill the real analysis requirement, and unless you’re extremely talented, you probably aren’t ready to take 332 course as a freshman. I never took 314 (took 332 instead), but based on the course description, it looks like it covers measure theory (not covered in 215) and Fourier series (only given cursory treatment). I’d encourage you just to take 215. It’s a great course taught by a great professor. You’ll get to know other freshman math students by working together on the problem sets, and besides, you have four years to take advanced courses.</p>

<p>Does it make sense to take 215 first semester, then second semester take 217 and 330 (skipping 218)?</p>

<p>I assume 218 material would be covered in a more advanced in depth analysis course later right and that 215 and 217 are meant to expose me to proof writing etc?</p>

<p>Yes I think what you proposed makes sense. Then you could take 218 in the fall along with either 322 or 331. The 218 material isn’t really covered in any other advanced course, although some of the ideas are built on in differential geometry and algebraic topology. It’s basically just multivariable calculus using the machinery of differential forms. 215 is the most proof-intensive of the three 21X courses, but you’re not just writing rigorous proofs of obvious results. The material presented in the second half of the course (different notions of convergence of functions) pops up over and over again in advanced analysis courses.</p>

<p>Okay, so I should take 215 first sem. Then perhaps 217 and 218 spring semester?</p>

<p>That sounds like a good plan. If you already know a lot of multivariable calc then you might be able to get away with not taking 218 (I’m not). But 215 and 217 are really important, and I’d definitely take 215 first.</p>

<p>Oh, and I’d go with what’s on the registrar.</p>

<p>bump 10char.</p>

<p>id take 215 first, then 217. thats the normal order, so you’ll be able to meet a lot math freshmen that are on the same math track as you.</p>