Math 53, H53, 53M ???

<p>What exactly are the difference between:</p>

<p>53 Multivariable Calculus
H53 Honors Multivariable Calculus
53M Multivariable Calculus with Computers</p>

<p>Are H53 and 53M better than 53? If so, is H53 or 53M better?</p>

<p>I'm pretty good with math, which one should I take?</p>

<p>H53 = honors... significantly harder than 53 (or so i've heard) and geared toward math majors. (more proofs? not sure. 54 is supposed to integrate proofs and they were about 50% of my semester's 54 exams.)</p>

<p>53M = with matlab which is a matrix-based programming thing. when i was taking 53/54, the 53M prof was supposed to be terrible, so i stayed away from it. plus, if you're an engineer, you'll likely take either e77 (matlab) or another programming class.</p>

<p>53 = regular. </p>

<p>keep in mind that a good portion of people taking 53/54 are hard science majors or engineers, and most of those people are pretty good with math too. my 53 prof didn't curve, but my 54 prof did, and it was only about 10% A's. it's generally 10-20% A's, usually closer to 10%.</p>

<p>I would talk to current students and find out who the best teacher is (out of the staff teaching 53, H53 and 53M) and take class with him/her. Teaching in intro math classes ranges from good to abysmal, and you may do better in the harder class with a good teacher than the 'easier' class with the bad teacher. </p>

<p>It depends on your major. If you are geared towards engineering, and none of the teachers is significantly worse than any of the others, 53 may be the way to go. If you are thinking of doing math for your undergradute degree (particularly if you are interested in doing graduate work in math, applied math or theoretical physics), the honors math courses would be useful for you.</p>

<p>Other Berkeley people may disagree with me on this, but I thought prof Zworski (for Math 53) was quite good.</p>

<p>I was just checking the fall 2005 schedule and noticed that 53M and H53 are not offered! I guess I'm stuck with 53...</p>

<p>Would you recommend taking Physics 7B or H7B if I'm considering majoring in Engineering Physics?</p>

<p>Thanks.</p>

<p>i took math 53M during this fall semester. We actually did not use computers or matlab at all, even though we were supposed to. My professor, though, was horrible and was WAY too difficult. In fact, for our final, the class average was about a 30% and the highest grade was a 50%. His name: Givental.</p>

<p>PS - just beware though, math 53 is full of engineers and it is known also to be a "weeder" class where they purposely make it freaking impossible. The engineers are amazing at math too.. they have an amazing work ethic and are just straight brilliant.</p>

<p>H7B would be much more time consuming but if you want to do engineering physics (especially if you wanted to do a lot of computational work or theoretical physics courses), it may be worth the extra time and work. Be forwarned that the H7 series is for physics majors and is going to be filled with brilliant people who will spend hours on end doing the problems (many of them enjoy it); if you can see yourself enjoying this kind of thing, it's a no brainer to take the class - even then, pare down your schedule, especially for first semester.</p>

<p>is it worth taking multivar calc when u want to major in business or economics?</p>

<p>soulizm, probably not. however if you are looking at the mathematical statistics behind economics, i would take 53 and 54. 54 is particularly useful in statistics. some upper division stats classes actually require these</p>

<p>thanks h***.
would it be impressive to take 53 or 54 if you consider going to haas or other undergrad business program?</p>