<p>I have a question for you math minors (or maybe majors?). D2 will probably place out of Cal I with the AP test. Will UA count the AP credit toward her minor or will she just have to take a higher level course later to get to the required minor hours? Thanks.</p>
<p>Bikedad</p>
<p>Good question.</p>
<p>I would email the dept to be sure.</p>
<p>I think it would count since the math minor calls for Math 125 (or 145), and that would be covered with the AP exam. It doesn’t say that an AP class doesn’t count.</p>
<p>My son is a math major, and I know that his AP Calculus credits counted for Math 145 and 146.</p>
<p>D will be a math major - got a 5 on AP Calc AB junior year and will take BC this year. We met with the head of the math department, Dr. Wu, in the fall. He told her to start over in the honors calculus sequence so she would have the foundation they want her to have. He mentioned that they focus more on the “why” where most high school AP classes focus on the “how”. We didn’t press the point on the AP credit and placement.</p>
<p>^ interesting input momof1! I’ve heard it done either way (to retake or move on) but this having come from the head of the math dept. seems to hold a lot of weight.</p>
<p>Since DS will have completed Calc AB only, then perhaps the option of Honors Calc I (or whatever they call it) might be a happy medium. I assume it’s like halfway between repeating the same class and moving up to the next one.</p>
<p>Input anyone else?</p>
<p>AL34 - We are hoping the Honors Calc I (Math 145) will be an easy and interesting review.</p>
<p>As an aside - If I am using the course catalog correctly, I don’t see any sections of Honors Calc II (146) offered this fall.</p>
<p>Math 146 (honors Calc II) seems to be a spring-semester only class, as is Math 247 (honors Calc III). AP credits do count towards the minor and/or major. At this point, I’m only taking the calculus sequence as a prerequisite for something else, but if I decided to major/minor in mathematics, I was told it would count. Oddly enough, the calculus sequence is not considered ancillary for a degree, so it does count towards the major GPA.</p>
<p>Due to time constraints, I went right into Math 126 with AP credit for 125 this spring. If you did well in AP, this is possible, just note the grading structure of some instructors. In my class, the final will be 100% of the final grade for most students because it can replace all test scores and people, myself included, get some really low test scores (m2ck knows which professor this is).</p>
<p>Honors Cal II is offered in the spring only.</p>
<p>Thanks so much for this post. Son will be an engineering major, and we are strongly encouraging him to take Calc I again even if he gets AP credit. He is taking Calc AB this year. Glad Dr. Wu is on our side about this. Actually might rather him not take the Honors section, but just regular Calculus I. Any thoughts on this?</p>
<p>Taking a non-honors section of Calc I would be fine. The honors class would give him 4 of the 18 honors credits he needs for UHP though. The math department has not posted who will be teaching which sections yet (my professor doesn’t know what he’ll be teaching yet either), but when the instructors are posted, check out their ratings and choose the best one that fits in his schedule.</p>
<p>^^^^</p>
<p>I think he can count 6 CBH credits towards UHP.</p>
<p>As for taking honors math or not…sometimes it can just depend on a person’s schedule as to whether they can fit honors sections in.</p>
<p>Montegut, have you guys decided on UA? I know you guys were looking at other schools. Did UAB not pan out?</p>
<p>Definitely going to Bama. Cancelled his interview for the UAB sci/tech honors program after Capstone and meeting Bama’s honors people. Learned more about Bama during phone interview for Fellows and even more during CBH weekend. Got his room at Riverside and going to Bama Bound and Alabama Action. Looking forward to seeing y’all next fall!</p>
<p>Thanks for the feedback, Guys. D1 did, BTW, take Honors Cal I and enjoyed it. In fact, she took as many honors classes as would fit her schedule because she enjoyed that atmosphere–smaller class and, if not better teacher, could we say happier teacher–because of the (mostly) more dedicated students. She found that the extra work was really not that much and, most of the time, more fun than the regular sections anyway. </p>
<p>Bikedad</p>
<p>My kids have also tried to take as many honors sections as possible. Sometimes they can fit them in their schedules, sometimes not. In most, their wasn’t extra work, the exceptions were Honors Deductive Logic (I think you have 1 or 2 additional tests), and Honors Physics where you have some programming included.</p>
<p>Thanks, Rob and mom, for these posts. Would like son to take as many honors as can fit in schedule because of the small class atmosphere. </p>
<p>Curious about Honors Physics. What kind of programming are you referencing? Son is not taking AP Physics, not offered, just regular physics, but would probably benefit from small classes in both physics and calculus.</p>
<p>What about engineering, especially for freshmen, are the intro classes large and taught by TA’s, or should he try to take intro engineering honors as well?</p>
<p>Son is going to be in CBH, so don’t want to overload too much on the honors, although want to get small classes, less than 100 students, whenever possible.</p>
<p>Bama doesn’t use TAs to teach classes. TA’s are only used to help with labs, proctor exams…asst the prof with stuff.</p>
<p>I don’t think any of the engineering classes are that big…I’ll need to check. My kids took the honors freshman engineering class, but that is such an overview class…2 credit class that just assumes you know nothing about anything engineering, so goes over everything.</p>
<p>The honors college seems to recommend taking only 1-2 honors courses per semester. There is no limit the amount you could take in a semester, but that’s what is standard.</p>
<p>UA does not use TA’s for teaching as a general rule. However, there are PhD candidates who teach classes and some instructors may only have an an MA/MS or hold a different type of degree (JD, MD, EdD, etc.). One thing to note with Calculus I and II is that the non-honors sections can be different sizes from each other. The seems to be the same, but some have 60+ students and some have 35 (ones that reserve spots for engineering students tend to have more).</p>
<p>When you look at courses on myBama, pay attention to the maximum enrollment listed. Differences in course sizes may occur to fire marshal regulations governing maximum occupancy in a specific classroom.</p>
<p>I just looked up engineering classes in EE, ChemE, Gen Eng’g, and GES…I saw mostly classes in the 30-40 student range. The few big classes seemed to be odd ones…like…Intro to Chem E (which is a 1 credit class - just a basic “What is Chem E class”)…Engineering for the Future…Fund for Eng graphics (1 credit, but has small labs)…Engineering statistics</p>
<p>The honors college seems to recommend taking only 1-2 honors courses per semester. There is no limit the amount you could take in a semester, but that’s what is standard.</p>
<p>True…I think they recommend that to give all honors kids a chance to take a few honors classes each semester. However, my kids have taken more if they fit in their schedule and there’s openings. No one limits the number you can take. The issue is usually fitting them in your schedule. Also, some are at 8 am and my kids don’t take 8 am classes. LOL</p>