Math Placement

<p>Hate to make another thread within 24 hours, but it's on a completely different subject.</p>

<p>I'm currently taking the online pre-placement course and I'm realizing I am rusty on a lot of geometry/trigonometry material. For my senior year of high school, this past year, I received an "A" both semesters of regular calculus. I had one of the highest scores in the class. It is worth noting the math section of my ACT was my lowest score on the test. Well I have comprehension of material, I really lack retaining math material in the long run. </p>

<p>I know someone going to my state flagship and he scored low on their math placement. He is required to take college level algebra his first semester. This would absolutely throw off my planned course schedule and I'm terrified this could be me. I would like to take Calculus my first semester and I have been assured by my HS instructor I'm definitely competent enough to do it. But if I score low on the placement test at orientation, will I be unable to?</p>

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<p>I am worried about this as well. Can we just not sign up for calculus, despite pre placement test scores??? Also is possible to skip classes and get credits if you score well enough?</p>

<p>I’ve answered my own question after researching my tentative first year schedule.</p>

<p>I believe it’s to my advantage to hold off on taking Calculus or Finite in my first year and instead look into enrolling in them during summer. I may take IU’s version of Survey of Calculus, which I had previously taken in HS, just to freshen up a bit. </p>

<p>Kelley, you’re not forced to take a math class your freshman year. You are however required to fulfill IU’s Natural and Mathematical Sciences credit requirement and any your specific major may require. Also, you can be granted credit hours and placement into an upper level math course if you do well on the placement test. However, many discourage testing out of Calculus because it is such an important class in terms of knowledge you may need for future math classes at IU.</p>

<p>EDIT: Does anyone know of anyone who’s taken M116 Introduction to Finite? It takes topics from M118 and sounds like a survey of some of the M118 material. I may decide to take this so I at least have some math in my schedule as well the Survey of Calculus. It states that it’s a two-course sequence and M116 and M117 together fulfill any requirement for M118. It sounds like that would work to fulfill the Kelley requirements.</p>

<p>Does anyone know where to find information regarding what scores place you into/out of math classes?</p>

<p>Sounds like you are all getting unnecessarily agitated about math placement. Coste, if you got A’s in calculus in high school, I can’t imagine you scoring low enough that you place into pre-100 level math at IU. Also, probably very, very few Kelley direct admits take finite in the two semester offering, which meets Kelley requirements but is a really inefficient way to meet the finite requirement. As a direct admit, you can take finite at a cc in summer, where it is likely to be much easier than at IUB. Transfer the credit to IUB to meet the requirement. Many, many direct admits to Kelley do that. <a href=“http://cts.admissions.indiana.edu/[/url]”>http://cts.admissions.indiana.edu/&lt;/a&gt; I don’t know what raw score you need to test into 100-level math (in other words, to be able to take M118 Finite and M119 Calculus without first passing a remedial math class), but your Onestart account should report a code next to your score that indicates you are eligible for 100-level math. The code “Math-M 199Ex” or something similar. I think these codes change from time to time; post the code next to your math score and maybe a current student can help to decipher it for your and see if you can take 100-level math at IU before taking remedial math, which carries no college credit.</p>

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<p>You can take two following on-line courses from Ivytech:</p>

<p>M135 for M118 at IU
E202 for E201 at IU
E201 for E202 at IU
M201 for M19 at IU</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.ivytech.edu/shared/shared_ncompwg/transfer/iu_transfers.pdf[/url]”>http://www.ivytech.edu/shared/shared_ncompwg/transfer/iu_transfers.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>You still have time to register for summer session.</p>

<p>bthomp1,</p>

<p>The online test was just not good for me. I’m going to check my score and see what I got, but I know I received 59% on the online assessment. I don’t know how to decipher that, but I know I didn’t have good knowledge of the trig and a lot of other material. I’ve been reading through your very helpful posts for the last 24 hours putting together a schedule that will make me competitive GPA wise to reapply for Hutton and hopefully Business Honors. </p>

<p>Ace, thank you so much! I think I will go the IvyTech route for both classes. Maybe calculus this summer and finite next. If I would be placed into remedial math, theoretically, would they still accept a math class like this from IvyTech without having taken a remedial class?</p>

<p>I really was put off taking summer classes, but bthomp1 has convinced me via old posts that it’s the most strategic way for a high GPA. I’m aiming for all of the Kelley biggies, Business Honors and IB Workshop. </p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

<p>Coste…I also took the online math assessment and received a 75%. I found the test focused on material that I learned a couple of years ago. This is the first time they are using the online math test. After listening to bthomp1 I am taking calculus and econ over the summer. So in reality it wont matter what I get on the placement exams. If I pass calculus this summer with a C it will transfer regardless of what I get on the math placement test that I will take at orientation</p>

<p>Coste, 59% sounds low, but I remember that, when the old math placement test (from summer 2008) was 25 questions, my son got only 16 correct (64%) and that was good enough to place into 100-level math. It is a new test, but I think you should still find some kind of code reported with your score for your adviser to see and decipher which should be your first math class at IU.</p>

<p>RE finite and calculus at Ivy Tech, you may have to pass a placement test in the assessment center of one of the campuses in order to test into finite and calculus. Also, you can test into being able to take Finite with relatively low ACT/SAT or PSAT scores per this chart. [Placement</a> Scores - Ivy Tech Community College](<a href=“http://www.ivytech.edu/assessment/placement-scores.html]Placement”>Assessment for Course Placement - Ivy Tech Community College) They also have a math placement test you take at the assessment center of each campus called Accuplacer. The page linked above also has contact info/hours to talk to an adviser, who can probably help with requirements to test into M201 Brief Calculus, which transfers to IUB as M119. This page has a sample Accuplacer test link. <a href=“http://www.ivytech.edu/assessment/[/url]”>http://www.ivytech.edu/assessment/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Another class that can be tough on the gpa that Ivy Tech offers is the business law class that substitutes for BUS L201. Also, doing summer cc is a great way to help yourself get to 150 credits in eight semesters at IUB if you are an accounting student. </p>

<p>Coste, for applying to Hutton after first semester, make sure you take at least 14 credits this fall.</p>

<p>Is Ivy Tech online? Best to go Ivy Tech or local CC?</p>

<p><a href=“https://banprod-ssb.ivytech.edu/BANNER/bwckschd.p_disp_dyn_sched[/url]”>https://banprod-ssb.ivytech.edu/BANNER/bwckschd.p_disp_dyn_sched&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Try this link to check out on-line course. For the final, you can take it at your local Ivytech campus.</p>

<p>Update</p>

<p>Just finished my first day of orientation and the online math placement test is not utilized at all. Apparently they wanted all freshmen to take it because next year they want to do it all online, but this year the in-person test only counts. It’s SUPER easy. I only had problems on 2 questions of 26 and that was because I forgot a basic function. It’s all algebra. Very easy.</p>

<p>As for IvyTech courses, are any of them completely online? Living out of state, I would prefer the whole course and final online so I don’t need to travel to an IvyTech location in the summer. A local CC may be better in that sense.</p>