Math Programs Up! Spread The Word

<p>i couldn't care less if you are better than me.if you feel good that you can beat a junior who has just finished alg 2 then go ahead.</p>

<p>smart? this is not smart</p>

<p>1st of all, not everyone can AFFORD a graphing calculator..i know people who can't even afford their sat fees.</p>

<p>2nd of all, by using the program, you guys have just screwed everyone without the program....</p>

<p>and lastly the math section is gonna change againbecause u guys are abusing it by being 'smart'. and yet again, you are gonna screw the guys dat got nothing t do with any programs.</p>

<p>ps whats the point of working hard when you can get a 800 bjust by being proficient with a program? no i am not smart enough to realize its potentials but i am smart enough to realize it is an unfair advantage that undermines the dedicated and hardworks of those who chose not t/can't use it.</p>

<p>Go ahead and use the program. Whatever. It's just a cheap way to get around being incompetant. Use it, get into a good school..then fail out cause you're really an idiot - not my issue.</p>

<p>And I don't trust programs like that because there's so much more room for error than just doing it by yourself.</p>

<p>I went and checked out the programs... how are these any different from the ones that I developed already? Plus they are all separate and are not connected to each other in any way, shape, or form. I was expecting a little more from your conceited, arrogant, attitude merudh123. I mean, if you are going to boast about how great your programs are, then at least develop something new, interesting, more powerful/efficient, or in another language such as Assembly or C. </p>

<h1>Plus, why the hell do you need a separate "Site"? Why not use ticalc.org? Is it not GOOD enough for you? EVERYONE uses ticalc.org as anyone with a brain can obviously see - (they have 100,000's files at the public's disposal) :D</h1>

<p>If you people are still interested, you can check out SAT OS:</p>

<p>TI-89 version:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/364/36478.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/364/36478.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>TI-83+ version:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/366/36668.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/366/36668.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>It takes time, effort, thought, and strategy to make a successful software package, merudh123. This, you fail to realize :)</p>

<p>spartan is the man!</p>

<p>you win the internet!</p>

<p>In that case, I officially will the intraweb to Vehement.</p>

<p>Note: People are constantly trying to find ways to "trick" the SAT - to do better than the would otherwise. However, if you can't do something as simple and straightfoward as the SAT math in a 100% honest way, what does that mean about your character? And what does that mean for your ability when you do go to college?</p>

<p>Besides, I think I would have done worse with this program.</p>

<p>please enough with this philosophical ******** u make it sound as if some1 is committed a high crime collegeboard definatly knows about it and if it did give u that much of an advantage they would outlaw it so i dont see what ur beef is</p>

<p>Just what I expected, bullsheit software from a true bullsheiter...</p>

<p>It was as if someone gave "Curious George" an 89 BASIC Programming Manual, a calculator, and a banana and told him to go have fun - omg... honestly, how long did it take you to make those programs dude?</p>

<p>I dont think its a trick. It's a more efficient way to solve problems. For example, if I needed to find the distance between the points (1,2) and (4,-3) or something, I could use the program to find it, without going through the distance formula manually. Am I stupid and am using tricks to get by SAT Math? Not really. To be honest, I had these programs stored in my Ti-84 when I took the March SAT: Distance Formula Solver, Quadratic Formula Solver, a list of all the prime numbers, formula for volume/area.</p>

<p>And guess what? I didnt need to use these programs once throughout the entire test and got an 800. Why didnt I use them? I couldnt..... none of the questions could be solved any easily with the programs. </p>

<p>I can't believe you guys are arguing about this. How is this in any way NOT being honest? When has collegeboard specifically said that calculator programs are NOT allowed? It is NOT breaking the rules and it is NOT unethical.</p>

<p>I actually think a reliance on programs will do nothing but lower your SAT scores. During a timed test, the last thing you want to be doing is taking the time to go through every program on your calculator wondering what you are supposed to use to solve it. Just looking at it and mentally figuring out how to solve it is the way to go (and what CB intended).</p>

<p>i think you guys should debate whether or not using programs on the SAT math is ethical on another thread. I think this thread was just intended to let people know the programs are up for those who want them.. so jus sht up about it.. its not like ur curve will be ruined if a few people use these.. it will ahrdly make that much of a difference</p>

<p>That is the best point you people have made. I can easily get a 750 without using these programs. Honestly, how many people that downloaded these programs will know when to use the distance, midpoint, area, etc. the SAT is full of tricks and they are not as straightforward as those programs. Sure, those programs MAY help you solve those problems but the amount of errors you will make will exceed those you got correct. Either way, you have to know your math stuff for the SAT.. you cant just download some programs and definately have a 800. Also, those programs are just a shorter way of going the math manually so its bascally the same shi.t.</p>

<p>Def. /\ is right to a degree. However...what do you mean by sat math is "tricky"? I don't understand that.</p>

<p>no one program can give you the answer to questions that are in the end of the test. You really have to know your stuff for geometry. Programs cant help you with finding opposite sides are congruent, etc.</p>

<p>The way his programs are setup to run is inefficient as far as time and ease-of-use is concerned: the programs are all completely separate, and you have to manually run each individual program which WASTES time. </p>

<p>I developed SAT_OS with efficiency and speed in mind; every program is linked together and can be instantaneously recalled at any given moment. This way, one can switch from the Home Calculator to any function and back again in less than 20 seconds. </p>

<p>The only reason he developed these programs was because he's ****ed at me for advertising SAT_OS. </p>

<h1>Oh and btw...</h1>

<p>You can download the TI-89 version of SAT_OS here:
<a href="http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/364/36478.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/364/36478.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>...and the TI-83+ version of SAT_OS here:
<a href="http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/366/36668.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/366/36668.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>He spent a total of about 2 weeks developing them, and he came up with just that quality; you get what you put into something, in this case, it's just sheit. :D :D</p>

<p>"During a timed test, the last thing you want to be doing is taking the time to go through every program on your calculator wondering what you are supposed to use to solve it."</p>

<p>When you practice the 8 CB Tests with the programs, you get used to it and know when to use them. Like I said, I didnt use them on the real March test because no questions involved using any of the programs I had. However, it takes 10 seconds for me to find a distance between a set of points using the program while it takes 30 seconds for me to manually do the distance formula equation and risk making a stupid algebra mistake.</p>

<p>If you download it the day before the test and hope that it will save you time and raise your scores, it wont happen; however, if you're used to them, they can be fairly helpful.</p>

<p>Hey, I have an Idea!</p>

<p>Lets end this post before it escalates into World War 3. Programs have been and will be legal until collegeboard decides otherwise. Time management is important on the SAT, but it is possible to score very well (maybe not perfect) in the given time constraints.</p>

<p>Lastly, even if someone does decide to use programs to increase their score, I doubt someone would "get into a good school..then fail out cause they are really an idiot ". I'm sorry, but I don't think questions on the SAT are on the same echelon as questions on a typical college exam. My dad's good friend attained perfect SAT and SAT 2 scores (before the dawn of calculators), went to Caltech physics, and burned out, becoming a cocaine addict. His other friend went to state school and became a Neurosurgeon.</p>

<p>What is my point? This "argument" is absolutely stupid because:
A. Standardized Tests do not assess intelligence, but rather how well one takes a test
B. This is a moot issue.</p>

<p>I think some of the programs are useful, such as the conic sections, because I tend to forget the formulas, or screw up a negative sign etc. Other than that, the programs should not make that much of a difference.</p>

<p>As for the ethical issues, a kid who gets a 600 on the SAT math w/o the progs will not get an 800 just because he has this nice Ti-89 with all these progs. Just not gonna happen folks. Maybe this kid will get a 50 point boost, but that shoudn't be significant enought to touch the oversized egos of all us CC nerds now should it? I mean come on ppl, i can get an 800 whether I have the progs or not. I got an 800 in October 2004, with a TI-34 and an 800 in May 2005 with a TI-84+. It really makes no difference. It's whether you know the math or you don't. For the math IC in June, I made a bunch of these kinds of programs myself, but I learned all the math while creating the programs. So I ended up not using them anyways and still getting an 800.</p>

<p>So Vehement and others, just let the other use the programs. Whatever they get shouldn't matter as long as you max out the test as an individual.</p>

<p>oh yes it does matter, ever heard of percentile sir?</p>

<p>So what if some people like to use programs in SAT/SAT II?</p>

<p>I personally had stored some informations in my calculator...but i never used it because it hurts me / my pride, if i get an 800 on math using the programs, i will doubt if it was my effort or the calculator that had gotten me the score...</p>

<p>Later in life, some people will find life is so much harder than just plugging in programs into the calculators and never work hard. while others, like the ones without the programs, will be able to take on the tasks and the harshness because you have experienced it.</p>

<p>Maybe you can score around 50 points higher in math right now, but in the future, you are not destined to be a winner just b/c you have a calculator with all the programs.</p>

<p>in life sometimes you must work dirty...</p>

<p>good people lose, bad people win....</p>

<p>Look at your president...Kerry should win</p>