<p>there is no placement test for 104... just a pre-req of 32 or 41... if you can take 103, you can take 104. I have a friend who took both last semester concurrently. He also took chem. I'm not sure how he's still alive.</p>
<p>thanks seahorse and Dr. Egr, but now i'm confused. what's the difference between 107 and 104?</p>
<p>104 is linear algebra for non-engineers who generally then take MTH 131 for ODEs and some PDEs. 107 is part of a two-course sequence in linear algebra, ODEs, PDEs, and frequency methods for engineers (which concludes with 108).</p>
<p>So if I were to pursue the certificate in Markets and Management, 104 would be the better course to take right?</p>
<p>Is that level of Math even required for the M&M? I guess I would say that either MTH 104 or, really, a stats course might be more foused towards the M&M than the engineering-based 107/108 series.</p>
<p>I'm going to double major in Econ and EE and minor in math. I'll get the M&M certificate along the way. So I guess I'll take MTH 104.</p>
<p>Well, if you need math 31 & 32 for a major is it wise to place out? That doesn't give you the CREDIT does it? So don't you still need to take the class?</p>
<p>PS: I'm doing a bio major and it requires Calc 31 and 32</p>
<p>They won't give you issues if you take 103.</p>
<p>from a sophomore ECE:</p>
<p>i have been told that engineers, unless they are set on doubling with math, should take the math 107/108 sequence. it covers things that are not covered in 104/131, since the math major classes are more theoretical and the engineering classes are more application based. I am going to pick up a minor in math, and I am still going with the 107/108 track. A minor in math is just 5 courses above 103, and 107 and 108 are included. also, the statistics requirement can be filled by taking math 135 (probability) -- this leaves 2 more courses for the math minor. Personally, I'm going to take 136 (statistics) and then perhaps 181 (complex analysis). The DUS for math suggested these courses to compliment the ECE major.</p>
<p>Anyone take IB Math HL and get a 6 or better? Where did you start at Duke? Was it taught the same way?</p>
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<p>FWIW, my prof kind of grimaced when he found out a couple kids in my 104 class has hadn't taken 103. Both concurrently would be fine, but I really don't think they're keen on people skipping 103 altogether.</p>
<p>chlor - Unless you're dead set on the math minor, 107/108 would be a better sequence, and even those can count towards a minor in math. 104 is NOT needed for econ nor markets and management. Those need math up to 103 (or the new 102) and then a stat course.</p>
<p>PS: Your total number of majors, minors, and certificates can only add up to three. So you need to drop one of those.</p>
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Well, if you need math 31 & 32 for a major is it wise to place out? That doesn't give you the CREDIT does it? So don't you still need to take the class?
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<p>I would check with the department to be sure, but usually, if you take a math class that has those listed as pre-reqs, you'll be fine.</p>
<p>I'm taking multivariable calculus and linear algebra in school this year. However, I did not do well on the AP test. I had in A all through BC Calc last year and have an A in both multivarible calc and linear algebra. So... technically I have nothing to take next year... but I'm really debating taking Calc I and II again... because it says they are pre reqs for bio major. Anyone have any advice? I know someone posted that if I take Calc 103 they won't say anything... but... I'm still worried that I need those credits.</p>
<p>I haven't met anyone who was glad they retook calc at Duke. Take something that has 31/32 or even 103 as a pre-req.</p>
<p>If you are really concerned - and I am quite willing to PROMISE you that you will have no problems taking 103* - then you can call the directors of undergraduate studies directly, if you like.</p>
<p>*I am not quite sure about the Math department. I'm still pretty sure, but unwilling to make this promise to prospective math majors.</p>
<p>But isn't 103 the equivalent of Multivariable Calculus which I have already taken this year in high school and have recieved credit for?</p>
<p>Musings, yea that's why banana suggested we go on to 104 and use 103 as a prerequisite.</p>
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<p>You have not received credit for 103 or 104 (linear algebra) unless you took in it a college setting with college students. Dual-enrollment doesn't count. </p>
<p>You can, however, place into anything that lists them as pre-reqs. If you plan on taking a lot of higher-level math, however, you might not want to skip 104. It kind of eases you into proof-writing and thinking in abstract terms. Higher-level classes will assume you have already picked up those skills and so won't be as forgiving in the beginning.</p>
<p>musings, my roommate is an engineer and he skipped out of 103 because he took it in high school. the best thing to do would be to email the head of the math department, which is (I think) Lewis Blake and ask him about your situation. I should also say I don't think they'll care if you do well in the next sequence of math classes.</p>
<p>I have just emailed him with my question. AHH I didn't want to take math T<em>T I mean... bio major... seriously T</em>T</p>
<p>Lewis Blake is the Supervisor of First Year Instruction, so he's the perfect person to ask. Still and all - Math Rocks - you should want to take it ;)</p>