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<p>Is finite math the same as calculus?</p>

<p>And I took ACP Calc (M-115) in high school, so does that fill the IU Business School Math requirements? And if not, what does it get me?</p>

<p>Also, does a 5 on AP Language exempt me from Composition or give me 3 credits? I've gotten mixed messages. </p>

<p>Also, this may be dumb, but how many courses does one typically take per semester? And if I'm in Hutton Honors does that mean I have to take an honors course each semester and where do I get a list of the honors courses?</p>

<p>Ugh, I'm trying to plan a schedule because I go to orientation fairly soon, however because of AP, ACP, and other credits I have no idea what I need, what I'm exempt from, and what I got credit for. I already look through these treads using the "search forum" button and came up with nothing, although I did take notes on all those great comments about business classes and teachers.</p>

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<p>Also, there isnt any science requirement for Kelley is there?</p>

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<p>I took BC Calc in HS got a 5 on the test and did NOT get exempted from Finite Math. Finite math is more a mix between algebra/statistics. It’s pretty rigorous. If you don’t try hard, you’ll end up with a B or C. You can’t get exempted - even if you take AP Stats (like me). It’s easier if you take both the AP classes, it’s weirder.</p>

<p>I think a 5 on comp gives you the 3 credits… not sure though.</p>

<p>One normally takes 5-6 classes per semester. Most classes are 3 credits, and most end up doing 15 credits per semester.</p>

<p>If your in the Honors college, you don’t need to take an honors class unless you have a scholarship form the Honors college.</p>

<p>If your a DA, your schedule is going to be different than if you’re going to apply sophomore year.</p>

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<p>Smile, you are exempt from W131. You don’t have to take it. You don’t get credits for it. You can get two credits for W143 if your SAT critical reading was 670 or above AND SAT writing score was 660 or above.</p>

<p>English Composition</p>

<p>This part of the writing requirement may be fulfilled in any one of the following ways:</p>

<ol>
<li>Exemption without credit. Students scoring 670 or higher on the SAT Critical Reading test, or 32 or above on the ACT English Composition section, or 4 to 5 on the Advanced Placement English Composition section, are exempt from English composition.</li>
<li>Exemption with credit. Some students have an opportunity to receive College of Arts and Sciences credit. A student will be granted 2 credit hours of English W143 if the student has:
1. a score of 670 or above on the SAT Critical Reading test, or 32 or above on the ACT English Composition section, or 4 to 5 on the Advanced Placement English Composition section, plus
2. a score of 660 or higher on the SAT Writing Test, and if the student applies to the Department of English in Ballantine Hall 442. Students should also see “Special Note” under “Credit by Examination” in this Bulletin.</li>
</ol>

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<p>In answer to some of the main questions:</p>

<p>(1) You will be exempt from the MATH M119 course (Survey of Calculus I), but not from the MATH M118 class (Finite Math) class</p>

<p>(2) Bthomp points out why you are exempt from ENGL W131</p>

<p>(3) There is no requirement for a science course for Kelley–but you will have to do the general education requirements–which means you either have to take a field specialization option (27 units) or else the general option–in which you take 15 units in one of the three following areas and 6 units in each of the other two:
(a) Arts and Humanities
(b) Social and historical studies
(c) natural and mathematical sciences</p>

<p>If you don’t take a science course, you’ll have to take extra math courses in order to get the two courses you need for (c) above since the math courses you are required to take for Kelley don’t count towards the six units of the genral education option, or else you’ll have to do a field specialization option in either (a) or (b).</p>

<p>(4) No, you don’t have to take honors courses if you are in the Honors college–but if you want to graduate with either the “general honors” or “business honors” designation on your diploma there are specific honors courses you have to take–including taking at least 4 or 5 honors courses total during your freshman and sophomore years and then taking the honors version of I-Core–all of this will be explained to you by your counselor if you ask.</p>

<p>Lastly, to know all of this stuff, go the the Indiana-Bloomington website ([Indiana</a> University Bloomington](<a href=“http://www.iub.edu%5DIndiana”>http://www.iub.edu)) and put in the search box the following: IU bulletins on the web</p>

<p>Best of luck with orientation and at the school.</p>

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<p>bthomp, I too read that in the packet I got about only being exempt from english, however this site [Advanced</a> Placement (AP)](<a href=“http://ud.iub.edu/fs_ap.php]Advanced”>http://ud.iub.edu/fs_ap.php) says I get 3 credits for that AP class like zbullet says.</p>

<p>And if I do have to take a language class but am exempt from the basic ones, are there any suggestions as to what higher level english class I should take to get the needed english credits? or am I mistaken and I dont need the english credits?</p>

<p>As for the honors classes, I noticed in the course catalogue that there were quite a few honors classes to choose from. Do any of them fufill the honor’s class requirement, or must they be ones related to my major?</p>

<p>finally, how common is it in college to take classes from pure interest and joy? I was just wondering.</p>

<p>And thank you to all of you for answering all my questions so beautifully and being so helpful. Reading this cleared up so much!</p>

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<p>im taking some classes for fun to meet general ed req.</p>

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<p>Smile, I think you don’t get credit for ENG W131 from your AP English Language test score (of course, you will be exempt from having to take W131). But you do get three credits for something called ENG L198 Freshman Literature. I think this is not a class that anyone actually teaches. They have listed L198 in the COAS bulletin in two places (the description of classes for the English department <a href=“http://www.indiana.edu/~bulletin/iub/college/2008-2010/eng.shtml[/url]”>http://www.indiana.edu/~bulletin/iub/college/2008-2010/eng.shtml&lt;/a&gt; and the COAS distribution classes <a href=“http://www.indiana.edu/~bulletin/iub/college/2008-2010/appendix2.shtml[/url]”>http://www.indiana.edu/~bulletin/iub/college/2008-2010/appendix2.shtml&lt;/a&gt;), although I think the class doesn’t actually exist. It is there to reward people who get the 4 or 5 on the AP Language. It never appears in the IUB schedule of classes, so I don’t know how anyone could actually take it.</p>

<p>The three credits for L198 you’ll get from the AP English Language test fulfills three hours of the the distribution option requirement in the A&H category, which is a big plus. You can find it listed under A&H in the list of qualifying distribution option courses (the second link above).</p>

<p>So, you won’t get three hours for W131, you will get them for L198. And, if you have 660+ on the writing portion of the SAT, they will give you two credits for W143. Don’t know the deadline for achieving that score. For instance, SAT is given June 5 for the last time before you would start at IU. But I don’t know if you got a 660+ on that test if it would qualify. You might call the Department of English’s composition office at 812-855-8224 to see if it is possible to get the credit with a June 5 SAT score if you haven’t got a 660+ on the writing score yet. I don’t even know if you can still sign up for the June 5 SAT.</p>

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<p>“And if I do have to take a language class but am exempt from the basic ones, are there any suggestions as to what higher level english class I should take to get the needed english credits? or am I mistaken and I dont need the english credits?”</p>

<p>Smile, you don’t have to take any English classes if you are in Kelley except W131, from which you are exempt because of standardized test scores. You will probably take the 27-hour core, which passes for the minimum liberal arts type classes you need to get the Kelley degree. You can also take the field specialization option, but you won’t be able to use many of your AP credits if you do. It is very common for people with lots of AP credits to complete the 27-hour core by taking only two three hour classes (two three-hundred level A&H or S&H classes) because they already have six freshman level credits in each of the A&H, S&H, and N&M categories. </p>

<p>[Kelley</a> School of Business Undergraduate 2008-2010 Online Bulletin: Bachelor of Science in Business](<a href=“http://www.indiana.edu/~bulletin/iub/business/2008-2010/bachelor.shtml]Kelley”>http://www.indiana.edu/~bulletin/iub/business/2008-2010/bachelor.shtml)
from the bulletin:
IV. 27-hour Core</p>

<p>Students may choose one of two alternatives—the distribution option or a field specialization—to complete the 27-hour Core. I-Core prerequisite courses and Economics courses may not be used to fulfill the 27-hour Core.</p>

<p>Distribution Option
Complete a total of 27 credit hours of coursework distributed across three academic categories in the following way:</p>

<ol>
<li>Fifteen credit hours of coursework in one of the academic categories listed below with a minimum of six credit hours at the upper level (300/400 level for S&H and A&H; 200/300/400 level for N&M):
1. Arts and Humanities (A&H)
2. Social and Historical Studies (S&H)
3. Natural and Mathematical Sciences (N&M)</li>
<li>Six credit hours in each of the other two academic categories not selected for the 15 credit hour requirement.</li>
</ol>

<p>Note: For the distribution option, students may use one course for each academic category chosen from the following: COLL TOPICS courses E103, E104, E105, S103, S104, and S105, and Intensive Freshman Seminar courses.</p>

<hr>

<p>“As for the honors classes, I noticed in the course catalogue that there were quite a few honors classes to choose from. Do any of them fufill the honor’s class requirement, or must they be ones related to my major?”</p>

<p>Smile, you could get the “general honors notation” on your diploma by taking only two non-business honors course. These courses you would chose from the Hutton Honors classes at the two-hundred level or above, typically from HON H203, HON H204, and HON H205. These are “topics” classes, which have different topics each semester (with many of them offered every year or so), and these tend to be interesting classes that are graded with A’s for most people in the class. The honors notation requires 21 credits honors total and two of these HON H2** classes, and the HON H2** classes will also apply to the distribution option (HON H203 are A&H classes, HON H204 are S&H classes, and HON H205 are N&M classes). The honors notation requires two of these classes plus five approved honors courses for a total of 21 credits of honors courses. Of these five courses, a maximum of two can be applied to the honors notation from any COAS or Kelley department. You can apply six honors credits from any department in Kelley; departments are designated by the first letter of the course number. So you could take these five courses</p>

<p>A205 financial accounting
A207 managerial accounting
X105 honors business presentations
K204 honors computer in business
X202 honors technology</p>

<p>and six hours from the HON H2** classes and graduate with a 3.4 gpa and get the honors notation.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.indiana.edu/~iubhonor/faq/05.php[/url]”>http://www.indiana.edu/~iubhonor/faq/05.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Also, you don’t have to take honors I-Core to get the Hutton College general honors notation, as lots of liberal arts majors get the notation. Also, there is no requirement for how many honors classes you take each semester unless you are getting a scholarship from Hutton, in which case you must take a minimum total of three honors classes your first four semesters at IU.</p>

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<p>Actually, the new rule is that you have to finish with a 3.5 GPA in order to get the “general honors” notation. A 3.4 GPA was all that was necessary two years ago.</p>

<p>[Frequently</a> Asked Questions](<a href=“http://www.indiana.edu/~iubhonor/hds/admFAQ.php]Frequently”>http://www.indiana.edu/~iubhonor/hds/admFAQ.php)</p>

<p>P.S. Note, however, that you still only need to maintain a 3.4 GPA to keep your honors scholarship (if you have one). I guess they thought it was unfair to change the rules after giving the scholarship out to a student that had chosen the school based upon the old rules.</p>