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<p>studentdoctor.net. A virtual sea of application neuroses with an occasional nugget of pure gold unobtainable anywhere else. Don’t go there as a parent except to lurk and learn. </p>
<p>Our pre-med forum here on cc is a much more welcoming place, and our track record is really pretty good helping kids get in. Some great current applicants and current med students willing to share. And some current and veteran parents. This year’s thread is great. Last year’s thread was great , too. Check it out when you get ooohhh…a free weekend. 
Lots of data there.</p>
<p>Curmy…where is the pre-med forum on CC…lol…can’t find it…probably under my nose.</p>
<p>edit…it was under my nose…LOLOLOL…found it…</p>
<p>Are there any particular threads that you recommend???</p>
<p>Classics is considered humanities at Swarthmore, for distribution purposes.</p>
<p>I believe that generally English requirements 1) cannot be substituted by AP credit, and 2) must be listed as ENGLISH departmental credit on the transcript. At least that’s what Swarthmore advises.</p>
<p>Yep. Start here. <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/pre-med-topics/930486-2010-2011-med-school-applicants-their-parents.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/pre-med-topics/930486-2010-2011-med-school-applicants-their-parents.html</a> Happy reading. 1204 posts already. :eek: Then go back and read the stickies (stickys?) . And then the 2009-2010 applicants thread. Pass over anything ever posted by me, of course, 
but listen to bluedevilmike and the other med students.</p>
<p>SDN is a challenge. But it has straight (though sometime brutal) info. It has been helpful to know what to expect and when applying to specific school. But one has to psych. up to go there and not pay attention to cruelties. Looking at Profiles at specific schools threads has been also helpful (truthful or not, I do not know).</p>
<p>How common is the refusal to honor AP classes as core curriculum ?
Is the AP test grade considered ?</p>
<p>Addendum – from Harvard advising
<a href=“http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~advising/advanced/reqs.html[/url]”>http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~advising/advanced/reqs.html</a>
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<p>In general, American medical schools require one year each with lab of inorganic chemistry, organic chemistry, biology, and physics, to be fulfilled by courses taken in college. Some medical schools require or highly recommend a semester of biochemistry as well. Students should check the current edition of the Medical School Admissions Requirements for information on particular course requirements for the medical schools to which they may apply, especially their state medical school. In order to satisfy medical school requirements, students who are granted AP credit in these subjects should plan to take at Harvard a more advanced course with a laboratory component. Most American medical schools also require or recommend a full year of college mathematics. The AP examination in Calculus BC (with a score of 4 or 5) satisfies this requirement at most medical schools; a score of 4 or 5 on the Calculus AB exam often counts for one half-year of college mathematics. [Note, however, that only scores of 5 count towards Advanced Standing eligibility.] AP preparation counts toward the math requirement at most medical schools whether or not one opts for Advanced Standing, so this should not influence one’s Advanced Standing decision."</p>
<p>^You really have to research each Med. School on your list, the best is to contact them. My D. did that and all her schools were OK with both Math and English AP credits. Also, be prepared to have requirements changed and it might happened after you apply. Again, has happened to my D. Not a biggy, she just dropped one of her minors and scheduled to take required classes in her senior year. Got accepted to this Med. School, but might choose to go somewhere else. From our exprerience: got to research each school and be flexible to change in a middle of the game. Also, investigation way before having your Med. School list (general research) seems to be useless.</p>
<p>* From our exprerience: got to research each school and be flexible to change in a middle of the game. Also, investigation way before having your Med. School list (general research) seems to be useless. *</p>
<p>So, are you saying that investigating which med schools have which req’ts is useless before having your med school list? Couldn’t the investigation help to create your med school list?</p>
<p>For instance, now knowing that Keck has this large humanities req’t lets us know that USC won’t be on son’s list because he’s a ChemE major and most of his humanities were covered by APs…and he doesn’t have room in his schedule to add 30 humanities credits. 
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<p>*I believe that generally English requirements 1) cannot be substituted by AP credit, and 2) must be listed as ENGLISH departmental credit on the transcript. At least that’s what Swarthmore advises. * </p>
<p>Keil…are you talking about most/many med schools or just Keck in particular? </p>
<p>If most med schools won’t accept AP English credits in lieu of Frosh Comp classes, I guess son will have to squeeze those in some place If so, would taking higher English classes count? Does it matter what type? Would it have to be a writing class or could it be a Lit class? I’m guessing that med schools wouldn’t like seeing the English req’ts satisfied by a summer CC class? Ugh! </p>
<p>As for other APs…Son got credit for AP Bio and AP Chem…he took OChem I and II, BioChem, Cell Bio, and will take some other 3/4XX level bio and chem classes. Are those ok instead of retaking Gen Bio and Gen Chem classes??? </p>
<p>Are there any med schools that insist that you retake AP classes and won’t accept higher level classes as substitutes? </p>
<p>I don’t think he has to be concerned about his AP Cal credit because he did take Cal II, Cal III, Dif Eq I and II, and other math since he will have a math minor. I thought he had already taken Stats, but he hasn’t (other son did). Hopefully, he’ll take Stats.</p>
<p>*How common is the refusal to honor AP classes as core curriculum ?
Is the AP test grade considered ?
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<p>AP test score? My son’s school doesn’t record the test score on the transcript…just gives a “Pass” credit. Son did get 5’s but the only way that a med school would know that is if we had CB send the scores. I’ve never heard of med schools asking for AP scores to be sent. ???</p>
<p>The rule (for schools that accept AP credit) is that it depends solely on how your UG transcript shows it. If they gave you credit for a specific class , you get credit. No specific class? No credit. My D never sent AP scores to med schools nor did she include them anywhere in her app.</p>
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<p>On second reading, English AP credit is quite nebulous. The guide states that science requirements definitely can’t be substituted but math usually can–nothing explicitly about English, except to take courses in the English department. It can be literature (but must be taken for English credit, so foreign literatures in translation at Swarthmore wouldn’t count) or even creative writing classes.</p>
<p>I’m not sure about the status with CC courses. I think you’re allowed 1-2 total? A lot of my friends are planning to take physics over the summer, though at a 4-year university, not CC.</p>
<p>“Couldn’t the investigation help to create your med school list?”</p>
<p>-usually applicants want to match their stats to potential schools and add some personal preferences. The list of pre-req’s should not be determinning factor. They could be easily taken before you enter Med. School. They do not need to be completed before applying. You do not want to miss applying to Med. School that you like and have good chances to be accepted only because you have not taken couple or their req’s.</p>
<p>keilexandra,
Do NOT waste time translating web site verbage. Just contact ADCOM, they are very willing to help. You can do it with each Med. School you are applying. Also, start with pre-med advisor at your UG, they should be initial point of addressin all your concerns. It is thier job to place you, it is in thier own personal interest to provide you with as much assistance as needed.</p>
<p>^No worries, I am -never- applying to med school. Library school, on the other hand, is another matter. I really like being a CC reference librarian. :D</p>