<p>McCain: 11
Obama: 23
Barr: 1
Neither: 3</p>
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i can't comprehend why people would vote for McCain. Please, someone enlighten me.
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<p>Well, my good Sir, McCain promises four enthralling more years of the Bush economy, four more years of the Iraq war, oppression for illegal immigrants and the lower class, and benefits for the aristocracy. . . . Oh wait, you said vote for McCain?? Ohhhhh! Well in that case, because they're botards.</p>
<p>McCain: 11
Obama: 24
Barr: 1
Neither: 3</p>
<p>Obama is definitely more liberal than I am, but McCain is more conservative than I am. It really came down to foreign policy, which, with the state of the world today, pretty much trumps everything else in my mind. McCain is way too aggressive for my tastes.</p>
<p>McCain 12
Obama 24
Barr 1
Other 3</p>
<p>If PA becomes a key battleground, and Paul is adament about not running, I will,as of now, vote McCain. I just can't stand BO. He is way too far to the left, at least McCain is moderate.
BO will be my generations Jimmy Carter if he wins</p>
<p>McCain 12
Obama 25
Barr 1
Other 3</p>
<p>See Godfatherbob's post</p>
<p>Godfatherbob, actually track record shows that he is not actually advocating Bush policies, at least not in the senatorial career, which I think is way more indicative of a candidate than what they say in a general election. McCain was actually a big advocate for immigration reform and oppossed the Bush tax cuts. But the Obama campaign is putting forth this third term for Bush stuff which just isn't true.</p>
<p>McCain is SOOOOO very different from Bush. people saying that this he would be another 4 years of bush are so wrong. yes, he supports the war. however, if you look at the issues that both bush and mccain were running on in 2000, you'll see that McCain is far more liberal (making him more moderate) than Bush.</p>
<p>i don't like McCain...
and to think that I was once optimistic about this election.</p>
<p>McCain was far more liberal than Bush, but then he suddenly became more conservative when election season came, even going as far as to vote against his own legislation because it was too liberal. I probably would have voted for 2000 McCain, but unfortunately, he has turned into just another neocon.</p>
<p>Well that is just politics, look at Obama during the primaries, he was very pro universal healthcare, then after wrapping up the nomination, I haven't heard a single word about universal healthcare, politicians maneuver to what will win, McCain needed to get more conservative money so he became more conservative. But i think that when they are in office they will actually govern based on their positions prior to moving around to win.</p>
<p>I would guess that Obama hasn't talked much about universal healthcare much since the end of the primaries because it's pretty cut and dry, he supports it and McCain doesn't. His time is better spent voicing his opinions on things that undecided voters care about, not what the hardcore liberals care about. De emphasizing parts of your platform is one thing. The problem I have with McCain is he voted against or said he'd vote against his own
immigration plan. He also voted against a bill he sponsored to give citizenship to illegal immigrant's kids who graduate from high school.To me that's just ridiculous.</p>
<p>That is just politics, ppl manuever to win. Yes it is hypocritcal, sure that is present on both sides. i wouldn't defend McCain's record on voting, but i would also argue that his record is very bipartisan and he has challenged the party on issues, but as he needs to appeal to his base for monetary reasons.</p>
<p>McCain was bipartisan... almost a decade ago.</p>
<p>McCain 13
Obama 25
Barr 1
Other 3</p>
<p>Eh, personally I would take McCain or Hilary WAY before Obama, hm, anyone really. I will not write why; I will not defend my point of view- I will not even give you my point of view. Mostly because I'm too tried to write up a long post and go back and forth, but also because it doen't matter either way. No matter who wins, America still loses. Have a nice day everyone and enjoy your taxes.</p>
<p>Why do Americans complain so much about taxes? The U.S. has one of the lowest tax rates in the OECD. <a href="http://ic.pressflex.com/249.pressflex.net/images//1361.photo.jpg%5B/url%5D">http://ic.pressflex.com/249.pressflex.net/images//1361.photo.jpg</a></p>
<p>The problem with the U.S. is that its tax dollars are used incredibly inefficiently, leading to decay in the health care and education systems. Many countries around the world have proven that tax money can be used to create educational and health care systems that work.</p>
<p>Many people who complain about taxes seem to live under the wishful thought that they have earned every single cent that was spent on them by their parents, teachers, benefactors, etc. Maybe they believe in a kind of Free Market Buddhism where living a good life allows one to be reincarnated as a rich white male.</p>
<p>Many ppl don't like taxes, bc they work hard for their money and every paycheck the government takes some, not bc the government did anything but bc the government can. That gets frustrating, so obviously ppl don't want tax hikes.</p>
<p>McCain 14
Obama 25
Barr 1
Other 3</p>
<p>I don't really like McCain though. Just the lesser of two evils, in my opinion. :/</p>
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Many people who complain about taxes seem to live under the wishful thought that they have earned every single cent that was spent on them by their parents, teachers, benefactors, etc. Maybe they believe in a kind of Free Market Buddhism where living a good life allows one to be reincarnated as a rich white male.
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how many people are REALLY rich white males? yes, a higher percentage of white males are rich than any other demographic, BUT, it's not high enough for the republicans to win their elections.
I don't want universal health care because, if I (or right now my parents), making under $60,000 (combined) can afford health care for a family of 5, why should they also pay for other peoples?
I support universal health care for children (up to 18 years old). However, I know far to many people that sit on their welfare checks not getting a job (nor looking for a job), and I'm tired of keeping them afloat when they're not even trying to contribute.</p>
<p>that's basically my opinion for most taxes (note the MOST part of it, education is different, as are other things)</p>
<p>McCain 14
Obama 25
Barr 1 (possibly 2)
Other 3</p>
<p>I read somewhere that Bob Barr will not be appearing on some state ballots, including mine, so I looked it up:</p>
<p>"Most Americans are not even aware that ballot access laws exist in our country or how difficult it can be for third party or independent candidates just to get their name on the ballot.</p>
<p>But this is an issue that the Libertarian Party has dealt with from the beginning- usually successfully, but not always.</p>
<p>Right now, the LP has automatic ballot access in only 28 states. The rest of the states must be fought for by a combination of gathering signatures, paying fees and filing paperwork."</p>
<p>-excerpt from </p>
<p>Bob</a> Barr 2008 Blog Blog Archive Ballot Access Update </p>
<p>I am reasonably sure that he will not be appearing on the Ohio ballot, and so as much as I would like to vote for him and a much more wonderful country, I doubt I will be able to. On that assumption, I will probably vote for McCain, just so my parents aren't slammed with excessive taxes just as they are putting their kids through college.</p>
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Many ppl don't like taxes, bc they work hard for their money and every paycheck the government takes some, not bc the government did anything but bc the government can. That gets frustrating, so obviously ppl don't want tax hikes.
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<p>Taxes pay for stuff you use every day, genius. Otherwise, you'd have to hire your own personal security guards, highway construction workers, doctors, firemen, teachers, etc. Most sane people would rather let elected officials do that kind of work, provided that these officials are competent (which is not always the case, as in the Bush administration).</p>
<p>^^ unfortunately that attitude is far too common--people hate taxes, but they want all the programs that the government provides? Ain't gonna happen.</p>
<p>People who think the McCain won't impose taxes... well, let's just look at the past when candidates promise not to raise taxes (Papa Bush, for example) and then once in office, they realize they can't run governmental programs--even basic ones that conservatives would approve--without taxes. :)</p>
<p>and for christ's sake, he wants us to stay in this war without a penny in the government pocket!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
