<p>Cervantes how is McCain loosing hard when Obama cant even get plurality in polls rights now.</p>
<p>McCain chose Palin as a stunt move. After the DNC, it became clear to him that he was going to lose hard and fast. I don’t think he cares about her politics, her experience or what she can bring to the white house (arguably nothing). All he did was pull a move so “out there” that he hoped it would sway voters to his side. </p>
<p>Is this the kind of man we want for president?-One who plays silly political games like this just to win instead of caring about what happens to the country? </p>
<p>Hopefully, people will see through this scheme and not vote for McCain. He might get the vote of few extremist feminists who want a female president, but then again, what feminist is going to vote for someone who’s so pro-life? </p>
<p>My hatred for McCain has been permanently solidified.</p>
<p>Today is a sad day in American history. How condescending can you be to put a beauty queen a heartbeat away from the Oval Ofiice, no experience, no education, no background just b/c you think women will vote for ANY woman whether they are qualified or not. Kay Bailey Hutchison, Elizabeth Dole, Susan Collins, Condi Rice? NO!!! Miss Congeniality who hunts moose is now potentially on the verge of having to deal with Bin Laden/Iraq/Pakistan/Putin/North Korea/the economy/Social security …</p>
<p>If you are a partisan Dem, congrats you just won the White House. As a citizen I am so disgusted Mccain would rather win the election than protect the country. </p>
<p>Finally what kind of mother leaves a 3 mo old Downs Syndrome child to do this? SAD SAD SAD</p>
<p>Dr. Horse look at an electoral map. Many political analysts have commented on this. Although Obama had a small edge in the popular, in the electoral his lead was more well defined.</p>
<p>[2008</a> Presidential Election Interactive Map and History of the Electoral College](<a href=“http://www.270towin.com/]2008”>http://www.270towin.com/)</p>
<p>Obama has had no experience and no show for his judgment.</p>
<p>Palin has and McCain has and that’s all that it comes down to. Both have made good decisions, Obama has his name tagged on some bills or something. He talks of a different kind of Washington but he didn’t bother when he was in the senate. If elected, it looks like “change” just means a Democratic majority turning this country into a hard fast left.</p>
<p>They both get things done. Obama’s just stupid. I feel like he likes to opine on things as he first hears them, like splitting up the capital of Israel, or talk w/o conditions with Iran only to change his mind later.</p>
<p>When McCain is asked about something he’s not familiar with, he doesn’t TRY to appear presidential, he tells the reporter that he’ll get back to them once he knows the whole picture.</p>
<p>That’s the kind of man we need running for office, and Palin is the kind of reformist independent we need by his side.</p>
<p>It’s really quite disturbing to see all of the dismisiveness of Palin, as “just” a female pick. I can’t believe people can believe in Obama as President but not Palin as VP. Can’t believe it, dumb, ignorant liberals :D</p>
<p>“Finally what kind of mother leaves a 3 mo old Downs Syndrome child to do this? SAD SAD SAD”</p>
<p>Yeah, because a woman has to take care of the baby right? The woman can’t pursue things beyond her family, right? What a horrible person she is, to have someone else take care of her kid!</p>
<p>[CNN’s</a> John Roberts: Palin Might Neglect Her Disabled Infant? | NewsBusters.org](<a href=“http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2008/08/29/cnn-s-john-roberts-palin-might-neglect-her-disabled-infant]CNN’s”>http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2008/08/29/cnn-s-john-roberts-palin-might-neglect-her-disabled-infant)</p>
<p>Outrageous.</p>
<p>[YouTube</a> - McCain-Palin Rally in Dayton, Ohio](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKByFPy7-RU]YouTube”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKByFPy7-RU)</p>
<p>The cute baby’s right there :)</p>
<p>“With this pick, John McCain shows that he puts himself and his personal victory over the welfare of the country. At age 72 with prior bouts with skin cancer, McCain should have the ambulance on speed dial. And who does he entrust his potential office to? A hockey mom from the most remote state in the union.”</p>
<p>This is so disgusting. I’m impassioned about getting McCain elected…and getting Obama not elected 
But I argue with reason. Basic logic has shown that Barack is nothing but words.</p>
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<p>What eloquent rhetoric. Way to argue with reason.
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<p>Palin was a mayor of a 6,000 person town and then a governor of a state of 670,000 for less than two years. Obama was a state senator in a state of 13 mil for 8 years and a senator for 4. Their experience really isn’t comparable.</p>
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Fully agree. While there is no doubt in my mind that Palin is a great person, we must remember that there are many great people and great politicians in America. There is also no doubt in my mind that Palin is not ready to be President. Seriously, she’s done very little. Good job, she has a track record of what, 2 years? Please-McCain picked her because she has a vagina, 2 breasts, and is of childbearing age. Don’t deny it. As I said, it was a risky move, we’ll see if it works. I don’t think it will.</p>
<p>For me to resort to name-call means that I have given up on trying to knock reason into someone and will leave the argument at whatever they have made themselves believe… :D</p>
<p>I’m sorry for calling Obama stupid. I don’t know what else to say…gaffe-prone, unintelligible without a teleprompter, ignorant of so many things, lacking any kind of principle with his waffling, lacking any kind of history of achievement? :D</p>
<p>“gaffe-prone, unintelligible without a teleprompter, ignorant of so many things, lacking any kind of principle with his waffling” I thought you were talking about McCain.</p>
<p>Don’t forget Obama knows nothing of the issues happening at the Iraq-Pakistan border. Way to build up your foreign policy ethos, McCain.</p>
<p>Considering that McCain has been a disadvantage due to the current electoral environment anything he does which can conceivably close the gap is worth it. Great decision by him. Romney would have been a disaster electorally, despite him being easily the most qualified guy for the job.</p>
<p>Romney will make a great chairman of the RNC, I mean as VP he could not have raised money for McCain (and really VP is a worthless job). Romney with his wealthy connections will do so much more for McCain as a fundraiser than as a VP.
People who support Obama really should stop talking about experience. Sure she has not been governor that long, and sure the town she governed was small, but at least she governed SOMETHING. Obama’s has eight years casting votes, not running a government, there is a BIG difference.
Look at it this way. If you were trying to hire a research scientist, would you hire a person who has been a CEO of a multinational corporation? No. Because experience should relate to the job at hand. Obama’s experience has nothing to do with running a government, but her two years as a governor does. In this light she has more experience than Obama.</p>
<p>So then McCain’s experience has nothing to do with being President either. He’s never had executive experience. Looks like those 26 years have gone to waste. Dbate you are grasping at straws. Also, you clearly don’t know what a Senator does. VP is an important job. Very important. Especially with someone who has a sizable chance of dying.</p>
<p>He has Military experience, which is the presidents job.</p>
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<p>Obama is a U.S. senator from one of the biggest and most diverse states in the country. </p>
<p>Obama was also a state senator in one of the biggest and most diverse states in the country. </p>
<p>Obama was also a professor (or senior lecturer, whatever the real difference is) of constitutional law at UChicago, one of the best law schools in the country.</p>
<p>Obama was also president of the Harvard Law Review.</p>
<p>Sarah Palin, in contrast, is a former beauty pageant competitor, fisherwoman, and mayor of nowhere. Recently, she was the neophyte governor of the most remote state in the country.</p>
<p>Don’t even try to compare the two.</p>
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<p>So McCain is qualified because he done got shot at? What a moronic argument.</p>
<p>^Dbate, the military is only one aspect (out of many) of the President’s job. And having (extensive) military experience doesn’t really matter. One of our worst presidents in history, Ulysses S. Grant, was a Civil War general and hero.
All McCain did was get caught by the enemy…</p>
<p>Dr. Horse, does logic escape you? Commanding the military is one of the Presidents many jobs. Serving in it does not suddenly make one qualified. Fact is, executive experience is not the way Republicans want to defend Palin.</p>
<p>I never said McCain’s experience in the senate made him qualified to be president, if you can find that in what i posted then we can talk about it, but I didn’t so it is a mute point.
I also never said anything about McCain’s military experience. I contrasted the experience of Obama and Palin, bc well ppl were attacking her experience which is greater than Obamas.
And yes I do know what a Senator does, bc I have been there when they do it. In sixth grade I was invited to Washington apart of a Leadership thing and we got to sit in while they were doing something (basically nothing bc that is politicians really do :)). But I have also watched C-Span during debates, and senate hearings. Although I must say that the House debates are far more entertaining.<br>
From my direct experience, senators write bills (or more specifically thier aides do), then they have them debated on the floor. Usually they bring graphic displays to show pertient data for thier position. Well not always data, during the hearing over off shore drilling, some of the senator’s boards were just quotes from authorities in the field. Then the senator sits down and then another gets up, but sometimes they ask for time to be extended, which is acquised to usually.
Then they vote on the issue. The house votes and the senate votes. That is what the ENTIRE legislative branch does.
True, if you are the Head of the Senate Foriegn Relations commitee (Biden) or chairman of the Senate Finance Commitee (Bill Richardson) then you have more relatable experience, but Obama was not. He was a new senator, and power in the senate is driven by senority. </p>
<p>I know alot about what senators do from first hand experience, and mostly what they do it nothing but walk around. (Or at least that was what they were doing at the time I went, but Hillary wasn’t there she was back in New York, so she may do something?) Unfortuantely, Obama was not in the Senate when I went so I do not know personally what he did, but rather what Senators do. </p>
<p>I would copy and paste what the vice-president does (which is to cast the vote to break a tie in the Senate and step in when the President dies), but it is the sabbath and therefore I cannot do the work. </p>
<p>Nbachris all of those things you mention about Obama have nothing to do with managing a government. Being a mayor directly does (although not entirely comparable because of scale). Again casting votes does not equal managerial experience. </p>
<p>Oh and in addition to doing all the things you mention, she also has: challenged the state chairman of the Republican party and got him removed because of corruption, challenged the Oil Industry in Alaska (which basically is the economy of Alaska) by taxing them resulting in a growth in the state treasury, causing a 60% economic growth under her leadership as a mayor, and ended a 398 million dollar wasteful project alloting for more fiscal responsibilty in government.</p>
<p>By comparison you offer that Obama has:</p>
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<li><p>Voted as a state senator</p></li>
<li><p>Voted as a national senator</p></li>
<li><p>Taught in a classroom</p></li>
<li><p>Been president of Harvard Law Review (the only thing the president of law review mostly does is edit papers that are going to be submitted)</p></li>
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<p>My mom has taught in a classroom and voted, does that make her qualified to be president?</p>
<p>In terms of managerial experience Palin beats Obama. For McCain v. Obama, they both do not have managerial experience, so you look to judgement.</p>
<p>Obama’s biggest judgement factor that he uses is that he did not vote for the war in Iraq, okay, he also was not in the Senate when the vote for Iraq came up. So Iraq happened so that is irrelevant.
Barak voted to not have more funding for troops and opposed the surge. Last night in his speech he said Iraq has a surplus of 75 billion dollars, but what he failed to mention is that stability in that country came from the surge that he opposed and that John McCain supported. So who wins? McCain.</p>
<p>And in responding I would appreciate it if you do not attack me personally. I do not know you and you do not know me, there is no reason ppl cannot have an honest debate about issues without attacking the person they are debating with (that is what Obama said last night).</p>
<p>^Oops my bad. I was actually responding to Dr. Horse’s post when he said “He has Military experience, which is the presidents job.” </p>
<p>I guess I got confused with the two of you lol. </p>
<p>I guess now my previous post makes more sense…</p>