McGill Economics or Ivey Business School HBA

Hi there,

My son has got offers from couple of Canadian Universities for undergraduate studies. UFT , UBC, McGill, and Rihcard Ivey are some of them. We live in London Ontario where Ivey Business school is located. He is interested in both Economics at McGill and HBA at Ivey. I am trying to educate myself and have my opinion on it as to which one is better but it is hard for me to say anythin because both looks good. He wants to do Graduate studies in Economics if he picks McGill but i think employment rate at Ivey is very good and he would probably start working after HBA. Please give your thoughts. Much appreciate it.

Is there a reason why your son can’t choose his own undergrad school?

He sure can and he is working on it. I wanted to get some feedback from you to know myself better. Does not hurt to know others experiences.

You probably won’t find the feedback you need here. He should try each school’s reddit site or yconic.

More than a decade ago, the then-boyfriend of one of my nieces went to the business program at Western Ontario. My niece originally went to McGill, but transferred to Western a year later, in its pre-health-profession program. Anyway, for what it’s worth:

– The boyfriend loved the business program at Western. He wound up staying an extra year and getting an MBA. He was an ambitious kid from a poor family in Toronto, and it got him exactly where he wanted to go, a good career-track job at a multinational corporation. He was a smart kid, and felt challenged (but not too challenged) and stimulated by the business curriculum. I had the impression the undergraduate program was very broad, not particularly focused on sub-areas. But that sort of thing could have changed a lot in the last 10-15 years. (And anyway my niece broke up with him during his MBA year.)

– There were a bunch of reasons why my niece left McGill. There was the boyfriend at Western, and a very lucrative part-time job in Toronto. But she didn’t like McGill at all, found it very bureaucratic, large classes, difficult to make connections. Her best friend, a really intelligent, scholarly young woman, also transferred out of McGill for those reasons alone, no boyfriend or job noise in her decision. (My daughter’s BFF, on the other hand, also went to McGill in a humanities honors program a few years later, and had none of those problems except for the bureaucracy.) Western, although it has about the same number of students as McGill, felt much friendlier, and far more user-friendly.

– Economics is not the same as business. Sure, business uses economic analysis as a tool, some areas a lot more than others. But an economics student is going to spend a lot of time on theoretical issues that have little or no business application, and a business student is going to spend extensive time on subjects like marketing and management that economists barely address. Lots of people use economics as a substitute business degree at colleges that do not offer business degrees, but it’s a very imperfect fit.

Personally, I believe a smart student should concentrate on an academic subject (like economics) as an undergraduate, not a semi-professional, career-oriented program that represents a mishmash of academic areas that are never explored in depth (like business). I also think smart undergraduates benefit from being around the faculty and graduate students of a world-class research university (like McGill). But if you don’t agree with me, Western is a really good option.

Agree that business and economics are different courses of study. I recommend that he look online at the required courses for both on the two school’s website and see if he finds one path more interesting than the other.

Ivey is a program akin to Wharton in the US. So, of both are affordable and your child is interested in business, no brainer :slight_smile: and congratulations since it’s really hard to get into !!!

Why did your son not consider McGill’s Desautels business school?

Also, going away to university can be a mind broadening experience, or a very frightening one, depending on the student.

Thanks. I am on it!

Thank you all for your thoughts. I really appreciate it. Mind broadening experience is what we both agree that he got to have. He is with five family members for all of his life and this is the time to get out of it.

We both spent good amount of time on looking into many aspects of this important decision. I realize that this is the time for me to pull out and let him decide. I believe he can make informed decision himself and I am happy about that. As he has to reply back to Ivey by 05/13, i will let you know what he decided.

Regarding Ivey’s acceptance rate, you are right. He is the only one out of his school so far who got an offer from Ivey whereas he believes that many of his close friends have better grades and EC’s. His average is 93%. He believes his writing is the strongest.

Thanks again.

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