McGill or U. Toronto?

<p>^you’re nuts. Schools in Canada are all mediocre. Canada is all about mediocrity. Nobody cares about hierarchies like that in Canada. Canada’s almost socialist. It’s actually kinda funny; kids in Canada talk about how competitive getting into university is…except that everyone gets into where they want to go, eventually if not right away. Canada has fake competition to make people feel better about themselves, but in the end it’s very egalitarian. Nobodies a winner and no one’s a loser. </p>

<p>Also, Montreal is a far better city than Toronto. Way hotter girls and way more fun. Toronto is incredibly boring, as is all of Canada (excluding Montreal). People from Ontario are possibly the lamest, most boring people you will ever meet.</p>

<p>^^ Apparently you know very little about Canada. Let’s start with something easy like Toronto versus Montreal. For most of the 80’s and 90’s Quebec itself had zero population growth. Why, because incoming immigrants preferred not to settle in this province.</p>

<p>Here is a quote from a report: Montreal, Quebec’s largest city, lost nearly half a million in population. Despite generous tax subsidies for families with newborn children, the fertility rate remained abysmal, while most new immigrants shunned Quebec in favor of Anglophone Canada.</p>

<p>That said, Montreal is an okay city. Just okay. There is nothing exciting about it, except perhaps the modern dance scene and local arts scene, that aside, Toronto is a far superior city in things to do and things to see. I’ve already listed those in my previous post. I understand Americans are in awe of the French culture that the city has to offer, but to us Canadians that doesn’t make the city that exciting, or at least to some of us. Toronto is the economic and cultural engine of the country. And that won’t change… at least for a while.</p>

<p>As for the schools, Canadian schools post their acceptance rates. Students generally apply to the ones who will accept them. There are very little rejections because the students who don’t have the required GPA don’t apply. However, once you get in, staying in is a huge challenge, U of T and McGill business are rumored to drop close to half of the declared majors in sophomore year due to low GPA. ( Don’t quote me on this… as there are no published figures).</p>

<p>That said, you seem small minded and bigoted… You just made silly asinine comments about a whole country, based entirely on ignorance. You have a lot of growing up to do. And worst of all you hijacked a post and added nothing to it. Am I to assume most Americans (if you are one) are as closed minded and bigoted, based on your comments. No… I am not as small minded as that. </p>

<p>Imagine choosing a school because the girls in the city are hot. This is the weakest argument I’ve heard in ages. McGill is a great school, I am just not sure it’s what the original poster is looking for. Do some research next time…besides getting drunk and partying in Montreal.</p>

<p>wutangfinancial, I notice that all your posts are very negative about McGill and Canada. And yet, you ARE studying in McGill. Why so?
IMO, if you’re good, both McGill and Toronto are excellent for you in any aspect, as both are top-notch schools in the world; but if you arent, getting in even Harvard or Yale just minimises your career prospect even more. Look at yourself first, then look at the university. See if you’re worth it for the schools, not the schools worthy enough for you.</p>

<p>He is pulling a 2.7 GPA at McGill and wanted to go to Georgetown, according to a previous post. So someone is not too happy. Welcome to a Canadian school; the high marks you got in high school don’t always translate.</p>

<p>lol I’m not pulling a 2.7</p>

<p>where’d u get that? From my first semester freshman year?</p>

<p>I was deliberately being obnoxious because you sound like a typical anglophone Canadian. Toronto is not a world class city. Trust me. There’s a reason no substantive culture comes out of Toronto. It’s not NYC. An American’s opinion is much more valid than an Anglophone Canadian’s opinion. Both provinces are economically inferior to the U.S., except that Montreal is at least a decent place to party w/amazing night life, great restaurants, etc.</p>

<p>Also, you have no right to comment on anything if you’re from Dubai. It’s probably the most tasteless place in the world. Oil money does not equal culture. Montreal may be poorer but it’s a lot more authentic.</p>

<p>In any case, all the international minded folks I’ve met agree that Montreal is a way more interesting city, hence the far greater number of international students at McGill. I’m an American so I’m a lot less biased than an Anglophone OR Francophone Canadian.</p>

<p>Maybe you need to look up your own posts since you have hard time remembering your GPA. And as someone who has traveled to nearly 50 countries, I can rightfully say that Toronto is a world class city. It has more nightclubs per capita than NYC. Not that I am saying it’s New York mind you but it’s way ahead of Montreal. Broadways shows, dance scene, nightclubs, art galleries, museums, top notch restaurants, the most diverse city in the world and named so by the U.N. for many years in a row now. It’s the economic engine of the country. Montreal is a poor cousin, in every sense of the word. Economically, culturally and etc. French doesn’t make a great city, frankly I am not even big on Paris. But I do love Marrakesh Morocco, now that’s a French city!</p>

<p>As for Dubai, you need to get your facts in order, as always. Dubai runs out of oil in 2010. You really are living in a bubble.</p>

<p>Dubai doesn’t really have a lot of oil…</p>

<p>Canadian schools are not mediocre. I’m a United States citizen and resident who has studied at multiple US universities as well as at McGill. One of the US universities I attended was a state flagship ranked in the Top 50 “National Universities” by USN&WR. Even compared to this university, it was surprising to me just how much more academically rigourous McGill was.</p>

<p>Canadian universities look even better when non-academic factors are considered. As with US universities, there are plenty of opportunities to get involved on campus. But Canadian universities generally don’t have the unhealthy alcohol-fueled party culture that most US universities do. Also, Canadian universities are socially open enough that anyone can find their niche. This might be a byproduct of the very egalitarianism that wutangfinancial has an issue with.</p>

<p>Regarding NYC, Toronto and Montr</p>

<p>For Take3: I completely agree. It all comes down to personal preferences eventually. You make a good point to me.</p>

<p>For Inquilaab: LOOOL!! Are you attempting to cool things down between them?:D</p>

<p>And general question: Which city is greener? Toronto or Montreal?</p>

<p>I’m now literally choosing between the two since I rescinded all my other applications. </p>

<p>Now, to add fuel to the fire (and bring me close to the point of unraveling), my parents have chosen to inform me that they can only afford to pay for McGill ($20k US/yr) but not Toronto ($24k), so if I want to go to Toronto I would need to take out a loan.</p>

<p>Are McGill loans applicable for intl students (outside USA and Canada)? I tried to search on their website but the information is quite vague.</p>

<p>lol well written :stuck_out_tongue:
Just curious. How about intern/career opportunity after graduation? Average GPA? I know u of t has predetermined class average and grade deflation, but how about mcgill?</p>