<p>I'm a senior in college, and I want to pursue business in my future, probably in the area of finance. UVA's Mcintire is quite presitigious, but I was wondering if it was on level with Wharton and NYU in terms of recruitability.</p>
<p>I've been looking at all 3, and since UVA is instate, it obviously looks quite appealing in terms of cost and location. Their Mcintire School of Commerce is second only to Penn's Wharton, I was wondering what sets the two apart.</p>
<p>Ideally, I want to pursue Investment Banking after school (Lets just assume that I'm not like every other person chasing money).</p>
<p>Basically, I just want some of your opinions on the exit opportunities from Mcintire, and compare them to that of NYU (Stern) and Penn (Wharton).</p>
<p>Did you mean senior in high school? If not, are you already a student in the Commerce school? I thought that most students entered at the start of their Junior term, which would put you a bit late at this point?
To answer your question:
Wharton sends the most investment bankers, etc. to the Street. NYU does well in this respect thanks to the obvious proximity there in NYC. UVA has a decent reputation as well from what I understand, you just may have to "try" a bit harder than your counter-parts.</p>
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Remember that Wharton is substantially bigger than McIntire. We have plenty of graduates getting placed at i-banks, though our number is obviously smaller because of our size.</p>
<p>We are deliberately small and we deliberately require that you start in the College of Arts & Sciences so you have a liberal arts foundation (and plenty of experience writing) before you enter the business school.</p>
<p>If these three schools are your options, you will have a hard time making a bad decision. Each will provide you with a solid education and the odds are that you will move on successfully. I think size is a factor that deserves attention, though. Have you been to the McIntire website? Try poking around a bit. I'm pretty sure you'll find placement statistics somewhere.</p>
<p>I think describing UVa's reputation is simply "decent" is modest.</p>
<p>Dean J is right
GiveMeLiberty, I don't know what your talking about. UVa has a terrific reputation, one of the best, and McIntire is consistently rated higher than Stern. Stern is an excellent school with a great reputation, but its location is its biggest asset.</p>
<p>My apologies is my interpretaion in comparing McIntryre amongst the others was not seemingly "fit."
I agree that McIntyre is a TERRIFIC! school to attend, it is my top choice as I apply for Fall '09 transfer admission.
Though, the OP did not ask for our personal opionions as to which school/program we as a collective like the best (if that was the case my response prev. would have been different), but rather what type of exit opportunities could one expect from each of these. Let's be honest, anybody would be hard up to say that Wharton would not provide the best exit opp's, as I would personally rank Stern not DIRECTLY after Wharton, but very well possibly ahead of McIntyre (only bc of it's location). Keep in mind, I am also saying this if you are planning on working in NYC.</p>
<p>Dean J - I recently spoke with somebody at UVA Admissions regarding transferring into McIntryre for Fall '09, but I do have some additional questions. Would it be possible to discuss via PM with you? Or...
Thanks!</p>
<p>from a business perspective, there is Wharton and everybody else; it ain't even close. Whether the cost trade-off is worth it is personal question.</p>
<p>For undergrad, US News does not rate Wharton that far ahead of McIntyre in 2008 (I'm not familiar with 2009's stats), and I don't think the difference is as great as you make it sound bluebayou. I think Ross, Stern, McIntyre, and Sloan are pretty comparable to Wharton. Wharton will always be the best because of its name, but others have closed the gap.</p>
<p>BusinessWeek essentially said McIntire and Wharton were tied in their last ranking of undergrad business schools. </p>
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“Virginia rates higher on student satisfaction, sends a larger percentage on to top MBA programs, and is roughly on par with Wharton on key measures of academic quality. A dedicated faculty with a teaching style that demands active participation and teamwork, plus innovations such as a new multidisciplinary leadership program, don't hurt either.”
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“A tiny two-year program at a public university, with in-state annual tuition of just $7,845, Virginia’s McIntire School of Commerce could not be more different from Wharton, an elite four-year private-school program with enrollment and tuition about four times as high.”<a href="McIntire%20enrolls%20about%20650%20students%20and%20Wharton%20enrolls%20about%202,500">/QUOTE</a></p>
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So here's what went down in the Wharton-Virginia contest. Student and recruiter satisfaction with Wharton ebbed somewhat, while Virginia received the highest ratings from its students of any of the 96 schools we ranked. The fact that graduates' average starting salary increased by $5,500—or more than 10%—to $58,000, had a good deal to do with that.
<p>This is meant to be helpful, not mean, but I suggest future applicants to learn to correctly spell the name of the school that they are hopeful to attend. It's McIntire School of Commerce.</p>
<p>I'm a big fan of UVA, but the only reason Mcintre sends a higher percentage of grads to top MBA programs is because Wharton grads feel they have sufficient business knowledge to get a reputable job right out of college, and are highly recruited by big name companies, so they don't even pursue an MBA. But the only reason Whartonites are recruited so highly is because of the prestige of the school. I'm sure that Mcintre's quality of education is the same if not better than Wharton's.</p>
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<p>Agreed, but your just reiterated my point, and that is particularly true on the international front. (I never opined who, if any, might be a close second.) However, since the OP is instate, UVa is almost a no-brainer (unless Penn wants to throw a lot of money at him/her).</p>
<p>btw: be careful interpreting "recruiter satisfaction," or at least read the BW notes to see if those things matter to you. Cal-Haas rocketed up the rankings a couple of years ago by, essentially, cateting to the recruiters' every whim, including scheduling, food service, etc; none of which had to do with the quality of the students.</p>
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I just want some of your opinions on the exit opportunities from Mcintire
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You might be interested in the numbers I found in McIntire's Destinations Report (upper right corner of</a> this page). </p>
<p>85% of last year's McIntire grads had accepted jobs by August (58% in the financial sector, 38% specifically at i-banks...if I'm reading the charts correctly). 8% were going to graduate school (programs included advertising, law, business administration, management, and accounting). 2% designated that they weren't in the job market at the time.</p>
<p>Of the McIntire students who had summer internships between junior and senior year, 78% were offered full-time positions from the company where they interned.</p>
<p>From what I understand of MBA admission, schools want their students to have some work experience before starting a program. The fact that some of our McIntire graduates went right into MBA programs says to me that ty had experience that was deemed on par with that of applicants who had a few years of professional experience.</p>
<p>Again, tough to make a bad decision with the options presented.</p>
<p>Wow, good stuff guys. Thanks for the breakdown. Thank you Dean J for your input too, its nice to have an "insiders" look on things, so to speak.</p>
<p>I also misstated that I was a senior in college, im actually a senior in high school. </p>
<p>Looks to me like my initial feelings were right about McIntire, since its instate plus such a good program. Hopefully I'll attend UVA next year!</p>