Mechanical Engineering-- GW vs Stevens Institute of Technology

<p>I got accepted to both, Stevens is charging a little less. I applied to GW as a biomechanical engineer and Stevens as a mechanical engineer, either way I want to be decently prepared for a future in robotic-based prosthetics and/or biologically inspired robots (Think BigDog).</p>

<p>While GW offers a more tailored program, I'm not as confident about how strong it is. I'm also very interested in anything you have to say on campus life, as I don't want to live four years in a community that I hate.</p>

<p>Any opinions would be greatly appreciated!</p>

<p>Hello indecision (cool name, by the way). I can’t answer your questions on the Engineering section of the school but I can try to address the community part of it. </p>

<p>From what I have read on here/other online places and from the people I have personally talked to - GW has a great campus life that people would highly doubt anyone to hate it. GW students are always amidst the entertainment circle - think of the Cherry Blossoms Festival just recently - and find something to do all the time - Dupont Circle. As my friend said, “You may hate the school [for whatever reason], but you cannot possibly hate the social scene and fun of it.”</p>

<p>Have you gone to visit yet? I think as soon as you do that, you realize that you will most likely love the community you’ll live in for those four years.</p>

<p>Hello,</p>

<p>I’m a current Stevens sophomore in the electrical engineering program, and I can assure you that as far as your interests in engineering go, Stevens is hard to beat. The program is rigorous and well-developed, with strong corporate partnerships in every flavor of engineering. The degree is well respected in the field, especially in your area. I personally know two students that recently co-oped at Stryker, the world’s leaders in medical technologies like robotic prosthetics. </p>

<p>As far as campus life is concerned, we have New York City. I’m not sure if you visited, but we are literally right next to Manhattan, in fact, two of our three freshman dorms have skyline views overlooking the city. It costs $1.75 to take the subway into the city (about a 5 minute ride) and the subway station is 5 blocks from campus. Stevens also subsidizes all kinds of events there as well. Just this past week I went to the New York Auto show for $5, instead of the typical 35. They have supplied Broadway tickets for more than half off, Jay-Z tickets for more than half off, and tickets to comedy clubs and event for cheap as well. On campus, we have also have plenty of events going on. My personal favorite is the Greek Life, which I have been heavily involved in for around a year now. About 30% of the school is Greek, so its not like some schools where you are being forced into it, but it is there and thriving if you’d like to join. Fraternities and Sororities host all kinds of events on campus, from danceathons to “hall brawls” (inter-dorm sporting events) to BBQ’s and small carnivals. Also, a lot of our campus life is completely student run and planned out by our entertainment committee, a student run organization. They host two huge events per year - Techfest, which is like our homecoming, and Boken, which is a Spring Festival. Each year they have concerts, comedians, carnivals, laser tag, etc. on campus to get the campus out and celebrating for both events. They also hold numerous events throughout the year as well. The subsided tickets I mentioned earlier are an example of those. Stevens has a very active student life. We may be a rigorous engineering school, but we still know how to have fun. </p>

<p>Like insomniac77 said, if you haven’t already, I would recommend you visit both schools. Visiting gives you a great feel for the campus and its students, regardless of the college. It would be a great judge of the Stevens community for you.</p>

<p>If you have any questions, please reply!</p>

<p>Thanks! That little tidbit about the Stryker co-ops was crazy massively useful. That’s exactly what I was hoping to get from Stevens, to make up for GW’s biomechanical program.</p>

<p>That said, yeah I’ve visited Stevens (albeit in the dead of winter) and I’m visiting GW in about a week. If you don’t mind me barraging you with questions, how do you like Hoboken? And I’ve heard Stevens gives students a hard time if they want to use the machine shop, how true is that? Playing with expensive machine tools is very important to me. Also I hear GW is kind of a party school, which I’m not particularly fond of. Would you consider Stevens very quiet?</p>

<p>Stevens for education. GW for campus life.</p>

<p>Stevens has a more rigorous engineering program and will prepare you better for an engineering career. Not sure what is the campus life today. But when I attended Stevens many years ago, campus gets deserted by mid-Friday afternoon till Sunday night. Not very much happens on weekend (except for the frats). It is close to NY and you can experience the big apple on a short ride on the path train. </p>

<p>There are more going on at GW and campus is more active. Many view it as a safety party school for rich kids. Students are friendly and more social (vs the “nerds” at Stevens). I worked with GW graduates and attended classes there. Definitely not on par with Stevens.</p>

<p>Stevens allowed you to choose major as an entering freshman? Used to be you take core course the first two years and declare you major at the 3rd semester. Why can you not major in Biomed at Stevens? Department of Chemical, Biomedical and Materials Engineering established in 2003.</p>

<p>It’s not a declared major really. I just filled in “Mechanical Engineering” on the commonapp. I’m not actually tied to it or anything. :P</p>

<p>So yeah, declaration of your major hasn’t changed any, as far as I know it’s still done in the 3rd term. Definitely somewhere thereabouts, at least. As for Biomed, yeeeeah you really do have a point there. I’ve always been a bit leery about going into bioengineering because I’m worried that my education would be more biological than mechanical, (for me the bio part definitely comes second to playing with robots) but I did just peruse their program and it looks like they have a pretty solid mechanical basis. So thanks!</p>

<p>Sounds like you are more interested in biomechanic rather than biomed. Its more of a concentration in most colleges under mechanical engineering. ME (mechanics concentration) in Stevens I believe is more geared towards robotic and automation as in manufacturing. It does not seem to fit what you what. I looked at the BME program at Stevems; you do have I class in biomechanics (BME 506). May be you can get additional class as electives. The program looks more like a general biomed. For comparison, check the biomed course selection for Johns Hopkins. I believe they have three different tracks in biomed.</p>

<p>Hey indecision,
My name is Erica and I’m a 5/5 Biomedical Engineer student from Stevens. 5/5 is because I’ve done co-op and let me tell you Stevens has a fantastic program. They actually have the companies come to campus and you get to sign up for a time slots to interview with the company. So, even if your only job experience is working at the campus store, when you sign up for the time slot you are guaranteed a certain amount of time with a company representative. Every term you work you get a free night class. So when you go back to class you either take less classes or can get a head start. I used my classes to start a Masters…for free. The pay is great I believe average is $16.50 an hour. That goes a long way towards tuition if you’d like that…or spring break.</p>

<p>So in any case, our degree is a Bachelors or Engineering not a Bachelor of Science in Engineering. There is a difference. The difference is that no matter what Engineering major you do choose you’ll have taken classes in different disciplines. The idea is that, say you’re a Mech. E. you may not be an expert in electrical or computer engineering, but you can have an intelligent conversation with one of those engineers because you’ve taken a class or two in that field. It may not seem like a lot but if you’re going into robotics I think that would be a benefit.
Also, you said that you choose Mechanical because BME seems more biological then engineering. Yes, and no I’d say. As a BME you would take say “Transport in Biological Systems” aka fluid dynamics in a biological context. So really it is as much engineering as any other field, but we do take more sciences as well.
That being said I think the Mechanical with a concentration in BME would be up your alley. It is not just for people who want to make machinery. Companies will consider you for BME positions if you want. If you decide you would like to do straight up robotics instead of prosthetics you definitely won’t be pigeon holed if you’re a mechanical. </p>

<p>It seems like the machine shop is important to you. I’m not sure who’s told you it is tough to get into, but I know plenty of students who actually work in the big fancy expensive machine shop. So, if you talk to our machinist you may just get paid to be down there. I personally work in a machine lab which, for all intents and purposes, is shop class for all engineers. Did I mention the required shop classes that you build and program robots in? </p>

<p>Stevens has great campus life. I personally hope they have water slides set up on campus again this year for Boken…but if all else fails I’ll take the huge laser tag stadium, Streetlight manifesto concert, and fireworks show…and maybe the free massages they set up during finals week. 5 years at Stevens…enjoy it as much as I have</p>

<p>Hi indecision,</p>

<p>It seems we have a lot of the same interests. I am currently a 4/5 (co-op) Mechanical Engineering major at Stevens with a concentration in Biomechanics and Biomedical Engineering. Based on the classes that I have taken and the comments that you have made this seems just the right track for you. What this track combines is the background of design knowledge, the study of machine design and dynamics, and general manufacturing practices that make up the core of mechanical engineering with the study of the motion of the body, the bones of the body, medical device design, and biological processes from biomedical engineering. I chose this track because, like you, I am very interested in getting into the field of designing and manufacturing prosthetics, primarily artificial joints. I’ve actually gotten to exercise this passion working for two term with Stryker Orthopaedics, designing artificial knees and shoulder joints. I will be going back to this company this summer. I have also worked for a term at Replication Medical, designing artificial spinal implant systems. Given my experience at these companies I can truly verify that the classes that Stevens offers really do prepare you for the job, not to mention our excellent Co-Op Program that gave me the connections to get those jobs.</p>

<p>As for Student Life, Stevens has a very vibrant campus. I have been here for 4 years already and I am still having a blast. I am involved in Varsity Athletics, Greek life, and a multitude of other student organizations on campus. Our Student Government and entertainment work hard to make sure that there is always something going on on campus. Actually, next week is our spring festival called Boken, which I highly recommend you check out. Also, I really do not see much evidence to call Stevens a “suitcase school”. I do not go home that often, a point which my parents will constantly remind me of, and almost everyone I know follows suit so the campus is typically very active on the weekends. The weekend is actually when the majority of our entertainment events such as trips to Broadway shows, musical acts on campus, or intramural athletics happen. Not to mention, we have an amazing Greek Life system that I have had the privilege of being a part of.</p>

<p>I hope this information helps you make your decision. I highly encourage that you visit both GW and Stevens to help you make your decision. Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions.</p>

<p>-Amith</p>

<p>I’m a recent alum of GW engineering – was linked to here off of another website, and was curious so was looking through some of these threads. I found this thread particularly interesting.</p>

<p>First of all, in my opinion comparing GW’s undergraduate program to Stevens Institute is like comparing apples to oranges. The two schools are completely different both academically and socially, with GW clearly being the winner in both cases (despite these Stevens “students” claiming the contrary.) Stevens isn’t ranked anywhere near the top 50 of undergraduate programs…I never even heard of the school until this thread. GW is far more competitive, with a much lower acceptance rate than Stevens.</p>

<p>GW’s Engineering School is small, but in a good way. Most of my classes were under 20 students, with professors working very closely with us, and always available outside of class if needed. Classes were rigorously challenging, especially being that I spent a lot of my time studying whereas many of my friends in other schools such as Columbian College and Elliot had a lot more free time. I think this, combined with the location and partnerships with government entities was an extremely strong point. GW is quickly expanding these partnerships further given its obvious central location in DC, and is securing federal funding for research and job opportunities at an incredible rate. I had professors within the engineering school that were experts in their fields, working at numerous federal agencies, and learned an enormous deal from them all. I can say without question that I had a great education at GW. I was deciding between NYU and GW when looking at colleges, and ultimately chose GW due to partnerships with federal agencies that provided full scholarship and stipend opportunities.</p>

<p>Sure, SEAS isn’t the most well known program compared to others at the University, but I’m sure in a few years, it will be a lot more known. GW is currently working on a 300 million dollar new building for SEAS, which from what I’m told is going to be nothing short of amazing. They are hiring new professors, and are making huge strides in expanding research opportunities given the new Dean and President Knapp making this a number 1 priority.</p>

<p>What you have to realize is that when looking at Undergraduate programs, about half of your classes aren’t even going to be in the field you are studying. To fulfill accreditation requirements for Bachelors of Science programs, you will be taking humanities, social sciences, and various electives. Given how well rounded GW is, you will find yourself taking extremely interesting classes in all fields. Not to mention the study abroad opportunities are amazing at GW, with SEAS re-designing programs to allow undergrads to fit a semester abroad into their curriculum. I studied abroad in England, and it was an unbelievable experience.</p>

<p>In terms of social life, DC is an awesome place to be. I liked it so much that I decided to stay here while getting a great job with a government agency. Being able to study at the national monuments, living a few blocks from the White House, and having a great nightlife were some of the advantages. GW is the most centrally located school in DC, students are happy, and rightfully so.</p>

<p>Not knowing anything about Stevens, I would agree you need to visit both campuses, but you need to look at the full undergraduate experience before making any decisions.</p>

<p>Hey Indecision,</p>

<p>My name is Cassandra, and I am a 4/4 Biomedical Engineering student at Stevens. After reading through all of the posts following yours, I have a couple of my own inputs to add.
I actually live only a 22 minute train ride from campus, and to be honest, I only go home when necessary. It is convenient to be near home, but in no way do I consider myself a “suitcase student” by any means. There is always so many activities going on campus, that it is hard to pry yourself away from it all. From the festivals, to Greek life, to charity events held on campus, you can always find something to do. The Movie Club shows a new movie one of the lecture halls three nights a week. The Entertainment Committee makes pricey events affordable for college students. There are Registered Student Organizations ranging from The Ski Club to Habitat for Humanity. Getting involved on campus in these clubs is the best way to not only meet people, but to keep your interests alive. I personally have gotten incredibly involved over the past few years, and could not imagine my college experience any other way. Stevens is a close knit community that really promotes an involved campus, starting from your very first day in Orientation. Once off campus, the town of Hoboken has much to offer to us as well. The Italian Festivals in the summer and fall are favorites of Stevens Students, as well as the Hoboken Art and Music Festival. In the warm weather, one of the Piers in town offers free kayaking on the Hudson. New York City is so close to us, and that can not be beat. For less than two dollars, you can be in the culture center of the country. I am in New York City multiple times during the week whether it be for a research conference, a music concert of a favorite band, or even just to walk through Central Park and grab dinner. As you can see, there is so much to keep you occupied during your college years at Stevens. The only thing that needs to be taken care of is managing the time you do have to be able to do everything that is available.</p>

<p>As for academics, I feel that Amith and Erica truly went into detail with regards to the Biomedical engineering curriculum, and how it applies to your future goals. I did not participate in the co-op program, but I like to think that I made my own little path at Stevens. As a member of the Scholars Program here, I have had the chance to take up to four free classes every summer. I used this opportunity to work towards a Masters Degree in Engineering Management with a Graduate Certificate in Pharmaceutical Manufacturing Practices. I have also been heavily involved in research in the Biomedical Engineering department. The projects that I have worked on have mostly been led by the Biomechanics professor (due to the fact that my interests largely lie in this field). My most recent project was from this past summer, in which my two team mates and I worked with indentation testing on the vertebral endplate. I loved doing research at Stevens because the project was truly our own, and we were simply guided by the advisor. It was such a hands on experience. After initial meetings with our advisor, we were provided with bovine spine specimens, and spent hours in the cadaver lab preparing them for testing. We performed all of the fatigue tests ourselves, and compiled hours of data to write our final abstract. I was so excited about this project, because the abstract actually got accepted to the Orthopedic Research Society Conference which took place in New Orleans this year! My team mates and I were able to go for a week to present our summer work in poster presentations at this prestigious conference. About 80 thousand scientists, orthopedic surgeons, and PhD students were in attendance at this conference. This experience was one that I would not trade for the world, and it all started with just asking my professor if he needed any help with a project. Senior Design has also been an incredible experience in my college career. From the first day of freshman year, we are in labs working on various projects. Every semester we do have a Design course built into our curriculum, in which we build projects that utilize our engineering knowledge. These can range from building and programming a robot with sensors, to designing and soldering a small scale truss. Getting those hands on lab experiences is something that really drew me to Stevens. This design spine in our curriculum cumulates in Senior Design, in which we design, build, test, and present a working prototype of an invention that our groups actually develop. We chose projects provided to Stevens by outside advisors, and work alongside these professionals throughout the year to build these products. Many of these projects are granted patents, and some actually spark companies. Senior Design is really an incredible part of our curriculum!</p>

<p>Stevens not only provided me with a great education, but given me incredible memories that will last a lifetime. It is a smaller school, but that does not belittle the opportunities that you will have here. On the contrary, I felt that attending a school with a smaller student body made me more inclined to become active and get involved, whether within my sorority, the student body, or in the Biomedical Engineering Department. There is something for everyone here, with clubs, activities, and events catered towards all types of interests. I could go on and on about how much Stevens has given me, but I think I am going to stop here and recommend you come up to visit campus again. You mentioned that you came in winter time, I think you should fully experience what Stevens has to offer on a beautiful spring day!</p>

<p>Feel free to answer with any questions,
Cassandra</p>

<p>My gosh, you folks have been such a wealth of information. Thank you so much!</p>

<p>I’m actually en route from GW right now. So I guess I’ll flip a coin when I get home. ; )</p>