Med School Admission is really this competitive?

<p>I'm a junior in high school and have been really thinking about and looking into what I want to do with my life. I am leaning towards medicine at the moment, and have spent hours pouring over books and the computer reading about career options, school, etc etc. </p>

<p>Anyway...I was looking into admission rates for med schools and found this page on the IU website...
<a href="http://www.medicine.iu.edu/documents/factSheets/current.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.medicine.iu.edu/documents/factSheets/current.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>For those of you who are to lazy to open it, it says that out of 3598 applicants, 322 were accepted to the school. </p>

<p>So, my questions are
1) I am reading this statistic correctly?
2) I am from Indiana, and if possible, would like to stay in Indiana for med school. IU is the only medical school in Indiana.
3) I was hoping to attend IU for my undergraduate degree and take the prerequisite courses for pre-med. Do I have a better chance of getting in the the IU School of Medicine if I am an undergraduate student at IU?</p>

<p>And a random, unrelated question - does IU have a pharmacy program?</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

<p>I can help answer 1. </p>

<p>3598 students applied, and 322 enrolled. They do not say their acceptance rate, so perhaps all 3598 were accepted (100% acceptance rate) and only 322 chose to enroll at IU, or maybe only 322 were accepted and all 322 enrolled (9% acceptance rate).</p>

<p>Hoosier provided the following data. </p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/indiana-university-bloomington/493062-premed-iu.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/indiana-university-bloomington/493062-premed-iu.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Every year, on average, IU has 400 freshman that claim to be premed.
In the end, 150 or so apply.
About 75 get in.</p>

<p>This is the IU Health Professions and Prelaw Center website:
[Health</a> Professions and Prelaw Center - Indiana University - University Division](<a href=“http://www.indiana.edu/~udivhpp/]Health”>http://www.indiana.edu/~udivhpp/)</p>

<p>IU does not have a premed major.</p>

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<p>The 50% acceptance rate seems to be the average per the following link:</p>

<p>[Pre-Med</a> Topics - College Confidential](<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/pre-med-topics/]Pre-Med”>Pre-Med Topics - College Confidential Forums)</p>

<p>Good Luck</p>

<p>from what I understand, the grad school acceptance rate for IU is much much lower than the undergrad acceptance rate. An English professor of mine told me that for the creative writing department this past year (for masters) they had something like 500 applications and ended up taking about 10.</p>

<p>All,</p>

<p>lukuanvx probably means 50% of the IU Pre-med’s got accepted by, at least, one medical school. Thus, higher the better for IU. I think that IUSM may be obligated to accept more Indiana students. Regardless, some IU’s and Purdue’s graduate departments really are pretty good. I hope that undergraduate students have the chance to take some graduate classes and get to know some of the professors.</p>

<p>IU Jacobs,</p>

<p>Yes, the IU-B graduate admissions rate is lower at most schools than the IU-B undergraduate rate. This is because IU-B is geared to serving the general needs of the state of Indiana–meaning that it needs to primarily provide a bachelors degree for most of its citizens who choose to attend college. IU-B doesn’t play the games that you see played at most of the Ivy league colleges and at the other highly-rated private schools. Let me tell you how this “game” works.</p>

<p>Let’s take Stanford as an example:</p>

<p>Stanford–being a private university–does two things to improve its stature in the world and to get the big research dollars:</p>

<p>(1) They keep their undergraduate admission rate low–thus making them appear “selective”–and thus, by inference, a better school than other schools in the country. How does Stanford do this–first, they split the enrollment at their school so that less than 50% (and actually only about 40% of their students) are undergraduates. Are you aware that in the past 22 years, the number of undergraduate students at Stanford has increased by only 2% while the number of graduate students has increased by over 22%? </p>

<p><a href=“http://facultysenate.stanford.edu/2007_2008/reports/SenD6031_vpge.pdf[/url]”>http://facultysenate.stanford.edu/2007_2008/reports/SenD6031_vpge.pdf&lt;/a&gt; (Check out slide #5)</p>

<p>Since almost every school in the country is getting a greater amount of applications each year, this results in the acceptance rate for Stanford (for undergraduates) is going down every year–and goes down even when it is already quite low simply due to the lack of any increase in openings. In fact, Stanford’s acceptance rate for undergraduates is about 5% less than for graduates (just the opposite of Indiana University’s rates–where graduates have a much harder time of getting in than undergraduates.).</p>

<p>(2) Stanford’s other reason for increasing graduate students is that this allows Stanford to put more of their emphasis on hiring “high-end” professors and on focusing on building high-tech research centers specific to a particular field of study. This, in turn, attracts lots of research dollars to the university–both from the government–but more particularly, especially from the private sector and from investment people (venture capitalists). IU-B gets lots of research dollars from the government also, but next to none from private businesses relative to what Stanford gets. This is almost entirely because Stanford has 60% graduate students, while IU-B has about 4% graduate students.</p>

<p>The result, of course, is that to the typical person, the programs at Stanford appear to just be head-and-shoulders above every other school (except possibly Harvard and Princeton and Yale–who play the same kind of games)–while in reality, it is just the result of manupulating the numbers and of being located in a high-tech area where there are many venture capital dollars looking for somewhere to go.</p>

<p>Calcruzer,</p>

<p>Thanks for pointing out that. That is why some freshmen class may be brutal. For example, C117 (chemsitry) had 130W/34F out of a total of 430 students.</p>

<p>Would you have any insight on the following?</p>

<p>1) Do IU students seeking for medical school have to get permission from the school (Dean’s certificate of some sort?) to do that?
2) Does IUSM have to accommodate certain % of Indiana students?</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

<p>I’m sorry, but I don’t know the answer to either of those questions.</p>