<p>Is it possible? I alway feel that a standardized test does not show my true potential.</p>
<p>Are you already in college? If not, there are a few undergraduate pre-professional programs that (conditionally) guarantee your acceptance to medical school after four years. Some of these programs do not require the pre-professionals to take the MCATs (for example, at my school, Case Western, the pre-profs must maintain a 3.6 GPA, but do not have to take the MCATs--but if they do take it, there is a minimum score they must achieve to stay in the program). However, these programs have very stringent requirements--your math & science GPAs usually must be extremely high.</p>
<p>The way I see it is that it's a necessary evil. You can take MCAT prep classes, or study on your own with the huge amount of test prep material available.</p>
<p>I'm not sure which schools do not require MCAT scores--I don't know of any off hand, but everything I've read usually says something to the effect of, "Almost all US medical schools require MCAT scores"--anyone know of these mysterious med schools that don't need them?</p>
<p>A good listing of pre-professional programs can be found here:
<a href="http://www.medicalhelpnet.com/content/view/28/46/%5B/url%5D">http://www.medicalhelpnet.com/content/view/28/46/</a></p>
<p>I'm a continuing student who just finished my first year at cornell. I want to apply after my sophomore year.</p>
<p>Actually this is possible with some of the "early assurance" programs, which you apply to in your second year of ugrad.</p>
<p>I am from Canada, and in canada, i believe in the top 10 med schools, only 3-5 require MCAT.
now, mind you Canadian schools are very good med schools, some of the top 10 out rank many tier 1 american schools, i remember seeing University of Toronto rank before Dartmouth... and etc.
so...
look in to that :)</p>
<p>Apply to Stonybrook.</p>
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<p>Not to be overly harsh, but this seems dubious to me. After all, if you don't tell Case that you're taking the MCAT, how would they know? It's not you just take the MCAT and then your score is automatically sent to every med-school in the country. Candidates have to designate which med-schools they are going to send their test scores to. You could just opt not to send your scores to Case.</p>
<p>sakky,
The information given by the Pre-Professional Scholars Program (PPSP) at Case says the following:
"MCAT not required but if it is taken a minimum score of 32 is needed."
I haven't fully investigated (I am not a pre-professional scholar) but I know there are other programs that also have a stipulation such as this. I always figured that people in the program who wanted to take the MCATs would probably only do so in order to apply to other medical schools (the program is not binding by any means), so requiring a minimum score would help both the school and the student, because the students would either choose not to take it and go to Case medical school, or choose to take it but would have to seriously commit to it because they knew they needed to get a 32. But like I said, that's just what I've always thought--does anyone know the reason programs have stipulations like these?</p>
<p>However, again, even if there is such a stipulation, how would you be able to enforce it? So let's say you're in the Case program and you take the MCAT. The MCAT committee won't have any idea that you're in the Case program, and you don't have to tell Case that you're taking the MCAT. If you get a 32+, you have the score reported to Case. If you don't, then you don't. I don't see any way that Case can force you to release your MCAT scores to them - first of all, I don't see how they would even know that you took the MCAT unless you stupidly told them beforehand, and even if they did know, I don't see how they can legally require you to submit your scores to them. Your scores are your scores, and you have the right to decide who gets to see them and who doesn't.</p>
<p>I'm sure they make you sign an agreement before you enter their undergrad detailing what you have to do to stay in the program.</p>
<p>And if you decide to apply to other med schools and therefore ask them for recs and certification, they will pretty much know that you took the MCAT and will ask for your score.</p>
<p>...in which case you give them your score, because you could have taken the MCAT, gotten a 32 or better, and now have the ability to go to a better medical school..</p>
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<p>But again, the question stands - if you take the MCAT without telling Case, how would they ever find out? </p>
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<p>And like KhAn-T1m said, if you scored a 32+, then you tell them. If you didn't, then you don't apply to any other med-school - you just stay at Case. </p>
<p>Think about it. If you can't get a 32+ on the MCAT, then you're probably not going to be able to get into a medical school that is significantly better than Case's anyway. So then it doesn't really matter that you can't get the rec's and the certs necessary to apply to them.</p>
<p>Okay, out of this thread I got the message that there are a plethora of medical schools that hold something called an "early assurance" program, in which, after your sophomore year, after finishing all the requirements for premed and such, you are able to send in an early application to the medical school, assuring a place at the medical school for after you graduate from your current undergraduate institution. Can we put down a list of all these types of early assurance programs for the different med schools? I'm assuming that one can apply to these separate early assurance programs from a different institution? For example I'm aware that Tufts has such a program, but can others outside of tufts undergrad apply to it? Thanks in advance, and lets get that list ready ;)</p>
<p>georgetown has the early assurance program for premed students where you apply to their med school after your soph year and you are granted admission to gtown med follwoing the completion of your undergraduate studies without having to take the MCATs...i do belive they ask you to take the MCATs anyway but it has nothing to do with your admission...i do belive this is a VERY competitive program though</p>
<p>any -realistic- programs out there? haha</p>
<p>wake forest - no mcats, apply during sophomore year.</p>
<p>university of florida, apply in ur soph year</p>
<p>btw what will they look at other than ur gpa?</p>
<p>seriously, like i bet everyone applying at least has a 3.8 to 4 o gpa, will they be looking at high school grades? Obviously they'll look at them but will they put any weight on them? With these programs, I have no idea what they are looking for.</p>
<p>Does anyone know of other med schools that let you apply early? I've emailed my advisor, but he hasn't responded.</p>
<p>I wouldnt be surprised if they just put all the 4.0 candidates in a hat and just drew out of that....</p>