<p>Where do you find Medical School admission percentages? They are not in the MSAR - it has # of applicants and # of matriculants, but not how many they actually accepted.
We have a US News, but cannot find anything in it relating to medical schools.
Thank you in advance!</p>
<p>I always obtained my data from US News and World Report. Importantly, they release <em>two</em> (at least) rankings books a year – one for undergrad, and one for grad schools. At least historically, the grad school tables included admissions percentage.</p>
<p>They should also be available at USN’s website. Again, however, the subscriptions are offered separately, not jointly – so be careful to sign up for graduate programs, not “colleges.”</p>
<p>I believe the next set of graduate rankings will be released soon?</p>
<p>As always, thank you BDM - you never cease to amaze me! D is home for spring break and she is doing some med school researching.</p>
<p>The next grad school rankings are probably due out in the next month.</p>
<p>The acceptance rates are offered by USN but they’re so low that they weren’t a factor at all in my selection of med schools to apply to. You might see Stanford at 3% or Harvard at 5% or George Washington at 4% or Tufts at 7%. It’s extremely rare to find a med school with an acceptance rate over 10% so just about everything is a crapshoot. I think looking at the median GPA/MCAT would be a better way to choose schools.</p>
<p>No problem, MP! I think this is actually a really important number. In conjunction with MCAT/GPA exclusion, I avoided schools with disproportionately low admissions percentages – Boston University, Wake, and Georgetown all come to mind. Looking at MCAT scores alone would give you a false impression that they weren’t very selective.</p>
<p>The other important thing is that it helps plan interviews, when that time comes. MSAR gives you applicant numbers; multiple that by USN’s admissions percentage to get admitted numbers; divide that by the MSAR’s interview totals.</p>
<p>What you get is, “Of the kids they interview, how many do they ultimately accept?” And that’s a very important number, since (in my cycle) schools varied anywhere from 65% (USC, U Chicago) to less than 20%.</p>
<p>EDIT: My apologies if there’s any weird coding.</p>
<p>NCG: This might be a relic of how old I am, but in my cycle, we got anything from Mayo’s 2.1% to Columbia’s 10.6%. I felt that that was a meaningful difference.</p>
<p>^You’re too old. Columbia’s acceptance rate dropped in half the minute they switched to using AMCAS. Last year, they accepted approx. 250 out of whatever number of applicants they had (probably around 6000). The only top school with “high” acceptance rate is WashU (although I think even WashU’s acceptance rate is below 10% now) and it’s no cakewalk with its 3.9/39 medians.</p>
<p>Edit: Columbia P&S’ admissions stats last year:</p>
<p><a href=“http://psadmissions.hs.columbia.edu/[/url]”>http://psadmissions.hs.columbia.edu/</a></p>
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<p>You mean the schools everyone wants to go to? 
Sure, they’re more of a crapshoot than others but I think there are solid reasons for those schools being so popular. I actually think it’s HARDER to get into BU or Georgetown if you have high stats which makes looking at the median GPA/MCAT even more important.</p>
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<p>This is a very useful statistic, which alone makes the US News subscription worth buying. I preferred schools that were more stingy with interviews but accepted a larger percentage of interviewed applicants.</p>
<p>This is all very interesting. Thank you everyone for taking the time to reply.</p>
<p>D was dividing the # interviewed by the # who applied to get a general idea. Even that number is enough to give you the shakes! It was also interesting to note which schools had a really low number of out of state applicants interviewed. US News will then tell her how many of those interviewed were accepted. Good thing to know. Another statistic she found interesting were school that had a higher % of students with Masters degrees - if you don’t have one, do you steer clear of those schools? Seems like if 20-25% have Masters degrees, you should move on to another school.</p>
<p>D met with a premed advisor a week ago (who is on the WashU med school admission committee) and was advised to select her “top 20” ?? medical schools so she could e-mail them over the break to find out if they accept her AP credit for a math and english (in cases where the med school requires more hours than she has already taken in these two subjects). At this stage of the game (not having an MCAT score or knowing her GPA at a more advanced point in time), selecting schools is a little difficult. She was trying to find a way to figure out which schools would be best to contact. D is a double major (science area and a foreign language) and her course slots are filling up quick. She just wants to know what she absolutely needs to take in order to get working on her schedule for the fall of her junior year.</p>
<p>When she gets her MCAT scores and has a sense of where her GPA will be come application time, then she can start seriously selecting schools.</p>
<p>Based on my own experience, your daughter should apply to schools with MCAT scores and GPAs slightly below, at, and above hers. For example, if she gets a 32 on the MCAT and has a 3.5 GPA, she can cross WUSTL off her list for obvious reasons. Conversely, if she gets a 38 on the MCAT and has a 3.8 GPA, she can forget about applying to schools like Drexel or George Washington. (Edit: she should still apply to her state school(s), though!) Aside from the extremely low acceptance rates of those kinds of schools, the fact that her numbers are so much higher than the averages at those schools that the adcoms are not likely to take her application seriously because they figure she’ll likely to get in at a higher-ranked school.</p>
<p>No doubt, NCG, if I had to pick, I’d use MCAT/GPA rather than admissions percentage. Fortunately, we don’t have to – and I think your analysis demonstrates exactly why. If you only looked at BU’s mean MCAT score, you’d think it wasn’t very hard to get into and therefore worth an application. Take a look at their admissions percentage, and all of a sudden you realize that there’s something else going on with that story.</p>
<p>No disagreement between us: MCAT is more important; admissions percentage helps tell you when something else is happening too.</p>
<p>OP,
Here is last year’s data from AAMC.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/start.htm[/url]”>http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/start.htm</a></p>
<p><a href=“http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/2008/2008mcatgpa.htm[/url]”>http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/2008/2008mcatgpa.htm</a></p>
<p>[AAMC:</a> FACTS Table 1: U.S. Medical School Applications and Matriculants by School, State of Legal Residence, and Sex](<a href=“http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/2008/2008school.htm]AAMC:”>http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/2008/2008school.htm)</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/2008/mcatgparaceeth08.htm[/url]”>http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/2008/mcatgparaceeth08.htm</a></p>
<p>Thanks Pharmgal! One can find # of applicants and # of matriculants, but it is a little harder to find the date that shows the # of applicants that were accepted. BDM says it is available in US News graduate school edition.</p>
<p>As a sample (I won’t name the school) here is some USNWR data of a school my D might have been interested in :</p>
<p>Total admissions data 2055 applied, 373 interviewed, 232 were accepted, 176 enrolled</p>
<p>In-state admissions data 459 applied, 254 interviewed, 174 were accepted, 157 enrolled</p>
<p>Out-state admissions data 1596 applied, 119 interviewed, 58 were accepted, 19 enrolled</p>
<p>Women admissions data 948 applied, 153 interviewed, 84 were accepted, 60 enrolled</p>
<p>Minor admissions data 685 applied, 84 interviewed, 57 were accepted, 41 enrolled</p>
<p>Along with the data available from AAMC and MSAR you can start a list. How you finish one? I have no idea.</p>
<p>I (the parent) will be moving to another state, so that will be the state of residency for my D for 3 years of college. So am I correct in assuming that my “new state” will be where she should apply for her in-state med school?</p>
<p>2000 applicants? Where is this school? North Dakota?</p>
<p>2000 applicants? Where is this school? North Dakota?</p>
<p>Nope. Wrong-a-mundo . North Dakota A+T. ;)</p>
<p>North Dakota A+T. It’s in South Dakota. That’s why the low number of applicants.</p>
<p>Curm,</p>
<p>It appears that most of the instate applicants do matriculate while only OOS ones are way more selective. Perhaps this is due to lower instate tuitions?</p>
<p>That’s definitely part of it. Also, any applicant that’s good enough to get into a public school from out of state would likely have multiple acceptances and more choices. There are obviously differences in regional perceptions of prestige that goes into it as well. UC Davis is likely to be much better received by someone from the Bay Area than someone from New York. Even if you look at UCSF, there are big differences in the yield of in-state vs. out of state applicants.</p>