<p>I know this should be in the other section, but no one really goes on there. Does anyone know any good medical schools in Europe or other places where you can go after high school? And ones that are like 5-6 Years. Please Thanks.</p>
<p>I've never heard of a 5-year one. There are a couple reallllly intense 6-year ones all over the place...one notable one is NEOUCOM in Ohio. However, be forewarned that #1. You should be 150% sure you want to do medicine when going to a place like this...though excellent, these places offer nothing else!</p>
<h1>2. You have to be willing to sacrifice your summers...most 6-year programs I've heard of require classes all summer</h1>
<p>Idk...unless you're trying to save $$, why not go to a regular 4-year college, graduate early, and then head to med school?</p>
<p>Going to medical school in another country makes it more difficult to get a license to practice in the US. If you plan to work in the US it is better to go to med school here. There is another six year program I've heard of in Kansas City. I'm sure you can do a search and find a few others.</p>
<p>I think, if I'm not mistaken, that the UK has a program where you can go straight to med school. </p>
<p>Really, I would only suggest going out of country if you plan on going to one of the more scientifically advanced countries (specifically, the UK and Germany. Or if you're open to it, Canada.) Because a lot of the smaller countries just aren't "there" yet. Which, like atomom said, would make it difficult to get licensed in the US.</p>
<p>::Because a lot of the smaller countries just aren't "there" yet::</p>
<p>ridiculous statement. </p>
<p>the U.S. is one of the only countries in the world with an undergrad system. in most places, you go directly from high school to med school, law school, etc. consequently, you will find plenty of schools in europe that accept people straight out of high school. that said, you will probably need to pass an entrance exam and/or something like the a-levels or french bac.</p>
<p>That's one of the main reasons I want to go abroad. I know I want to be a doctor and don't want to do my Bachelors degree. It seems like a waste of time and money when in the long run it won't be that important to me. It'll be somewhat important, but not too much. </p>
<p>Does anyone know if if you do your MD in another country then you'll have to spend more years here in your residency or something.</p>
<p>the best road for you would be a combined bs/md program where you can knock both out in 6 years. There are several in the US(Albany, Penn state/Jefferson etc..). These programs are, of course, highly competitive(1500 SAT type of programs). Going to school in Europe is no guarantee in getting back into the US medical system.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, your attitude towards a bachelor's degree is unwarranted in light of the difficulties you will have coming back to the US to practice if that's what you want to do. </p>
<p>First, the first try passage rate of Step 1 of the USMLE's for International Medical Graduates (IMG's) is a mere 63% compared to 93% for US Second Year Students. The scores on Step 1 are an important part of getting into residency, particularly if you are interested in many of the highly competitive specialties (Radiology, Derm, Ophthalmology, Ortho). If IMG's are having trouble simply passing, then the odds of attaining a high score needed to be competitive for these residency spots is decreased. </p>
<p>Second, there are many residency programs that simply refuse to take IMG's, even for interviews. While it certainly is not a majority of programs, the simple fact that you have decreased options is not helpful. If some programs are simply refusing IMG's, it stands to reason that many others hold them in less than ideal standing, and when given the option between US students and IMG's are going to take the US Student.</p>
<p>Third, here is the breakdown of outcomes in the Match (the system that places residents to their programs) for 2006</p>
<p>US Seniors matched for PGY-1: 93.7%
Osteopaths matched for PGY-1:67.9%
US Foreign grads matched for PGY-1: 50.4%
Non US Foreign grads matched for PGY-1: 48.9%</p>
<p>source: <a href="http://www.nrmp.org/2006advdata.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.nrmp.org/2006advdata.pdf</a></p>
<p>US Seniors that are unmatched are also at an advantage during "the Scramble". This is the period of time between Monday when students are told that they matched to a program, and Thursday when their program location is revealed, in which unmatched students can find out which programs have open slots and try to get into those programs. US students have the benefit of their medical school deans and support staff to assist them in this portion, while IMG's likely don't, or have deans without the same number of connections to US programs.</p>
<p>Fourth, assuming that you do go abroad, graduate, and make a US residency program in Internal Medicine followed by a fellowship in Cardiology, do you really think that when you are 65 or 70 and getting ready to retire that you are going to look back and say "gee, I'm really glad I was a doctor for 35 years rather than 33 years."? </p>
<p>Fifth, there are about a 1000 other reasons that have nothing to do with residency or being practice that I could talk about. I would tell them to you, or anyone considering an accelerated program here in the US. Do a search of this board, and you'll likely find some of my criticisms. From maturity issues, to college experiences, to creating a fund of knowledge that will make you a better person, there are a lot of advantages to obtaining your bachelors.</p>
<p>Sixth, going abroad, even as a student creates a lot hassles, dealing with visas, money/loans, etc. It's not a simple process. I have a friend who went to film school in Canada, and is now currently going through a string of problems that is preventing him from working there...in Canada! That's like the easiest place in the world for someone from the US to travel to, and he's having trouble.</p>
<p>lilybbloom, I think you misunderstood what I meant to say. </p>
<p>I wasn't insinuating that the US system is better (I don't think it is at all). I was just saying...a medical student from a country like Bosnia, for example, would probably have a more difficult time getting a license in the US than a med student from Canada or the UK. Which is true.</p>