Meep?!? Please help.

<p>The realization of how close college is seems scary. Sure, I still have four years before I graduate, but time flies. </p>

<p>I want to persue music, as the violin and I are practically one. I've been playing since I was five, and I can't bear to even think about giving it up. (Un)fortunely for me, both my parents are doctors, and my uncle's a scientist. They think of it as just a hobby, and are totally disrespectful to the hours I put in. "It's just a waste of time." I just know they won't allow me to even audition for a music conservatory/school when the time comes. According to them, I might as well begin packing to live on the streets. :( I know the hardships of a musician's life, and how competive the industry is nowadays. But seriously, I can't imagine myself sitting down at a computer all day long, writing preposals and scientific papers. Don;t even mention the doctor part of it... I turn green at the sight of blood... on film. I don't wish to defy my parents (at my own risk, for I don't even know what the future will bring) and I don't wish to drop music altogether, or even have it as only a hobby. I really want a performance degree, however crazy it may sound.
There's no way this would be allowed by my family, so I'm searching for a compromise. Is there someway I can get the degree I want, and keep my family happy? And what exactly is a double degree/what places offer it? </p>

<p>Also, what kind of degree does one require to work in the management businness (ex.IMG artists)? </p>

<p>Please pardon my ignorance. I'm really new to all this college stuff. In fact, I hadn't even heard the word undergraduate until today. </p>

<p>Thanks for your help,
Renee</p>

<p>I would suggest doing some searching around the forum, as this topic has been discussed a number of times, the past threads should give you what you're searching for...</p>

<p>But in short, a double-degree program is generally 5 years long, with the hopes to get a BM in music (duh) and a BA in some other field.</p>

<p>Peabody institute of Johns Hopkins has some really useful information about dual degrees on their site -</p>

<p><a href="http://www.peabody.jhu.edu/692%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.peabody.jhu.edu/692&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>This even includes some typical scenarios of students considering double degree, one of which is not so far off from your situation.</p>

<p>Keep this in mind: even though your parents are probably footing the bill for college, it's your future, not theirs!</p>

<p>Don't worry about your family situation too much now. I know many people who come from families of doctors or lawyers and managed to convince their parents to let them study music. It can be done, and you still have a few years to work on them. I know this will sound very cynical of me, but your parents employment situation will actually probably help you. You will probably be able to afford the good summer programs and lessons that others miss out on. Your parents also might be able to help you out until you are able to support yourself as a musician. Anyway, that is all still a few years off.
My advice is this: don't worry about specific schools for another 2 years or so. Right now you should be trying to make yourself the best violinist you can be. You said you're practicing a lot, that's an excellent start. Just be very careful not to hurt yourself - I know too many people who have reached the top echelan of conservatory education only to be held back by performance injuries caused by years of practicing too much or improperly.
You should try to find the best teacher who will accept you as a student. Even if you are happy with your current teacher, it never hurts to take extra lessons and get opinions from other teachers.
Audition for local youth orchestras and try to get involved with chamber music. These two will often come hand-in-hand. Both are important to a violinists development as a musician.
If possible try to take some theory and solfege classes. Being proficient in solfege will help you greatly if/when you enter a conservatory program. You might also try to learn some piano if you haven't already.
Finally, look into summer programs. You implied that you're entering your freshman year of high school, so you might wait a year or two for this. But still, programs like BUTI (Boston University Tanglewood Institute), Interlochen, Eastern Music Festival, or Aspen are excellent places for young musicians. These programs will also give you a very good (and often very accurate) sense of what the competition for conservatory spots is like and, most importantly, how you compare.
Good luck. Try not to argue with your parents too much over this. Being passive aggressive works pretty well in my experience.</p>

<p>Actually you should also read these articles published by Peabody Conservatory. They do a terrific job talking to the issues of conservatory vs university and what the future may or may not hold.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.peabody.jhu.edu/787%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.peabody.jhu.edu/787&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I think that Peabody has a specific dual degree program for music performance and some form of recording/sound engineering. Perhaps you can look into that and see if your parents would let you pursue a degree like that? It might be a bit easier than just a double major, since it is a specific program.</p>

<p>Let your parents know that excellence in music greatly improves one's chances for med school admission. Music majors are more than twice as likely to be accepted as biology majors. Do a little internet research and you will find plenty of information on this topic.</p>

<p>When I was taking my daughter to visit colleges (she's not a musician), I noticed that Swarthmore--one of the top liberal arts colleges--has scholarships to cover instrumental study. It's just outside of Philadelphia, where I know there are some awesome teachers. </p>

<p>Other schools that come to mind where you may be able to continue serious music study while majoring in something more "practical":
St. Olaf
Oberlin
Sarah Lawrence
Wesleyan,</p>

<p>really, almost any of the liberal arts schools will offer some music classes--and even music majors. See who's teaching violin! I knew a few students at Sarah Lawrence (a long long time ago) who studied with the great Dorothy Delay. She'd come to SLC on Sundays with her teaching assistant; these kids didn't even have to go to Juilliard to be her student!</p>

<p>I really think you that if you "and the violin are one", if nothing is as important to you as music, if you can't imagine doing anythng else, then a double major isn't going to be satisfactory to you either. But you still have time before college! :)</p>

<p>A lot of parents and relatives take some time adjusting to the idea that their child wants to pursue performance, since music is such a competitive business, and none of us really want to imagine our kids waiting tables instead.</p>

<p>But, most parents will come around if this is their child's true passion. You still have a couple of years before this is even a critical issue, but I would use the next few years to really try to do some community or music school orchestral/ensemble work, as well as a summer program. Let your parents see how important music really is to you.</p>

<p>And good luck!</p>

<p>There is the reality that almost no one that majors in performance ends up getting a job performing that pays a living wage. So your parents are not without reason to be concerned.</p>

<p>Over the next two years you will get a better idea how you stack up against your competition heading to college as a performer. But also take those years to find out if there is anything else you have an interest in that you could live with as a profession. Because if there is, better keep music as a minor or second major.</p>

<p>Renee,</p>

<p>First of all, don't stress yourself out on this just yet. You have time to work things out. Right now, the best things you can do are to keep working on the violin and get the best grades you can. By doing those two things, you will keep open as many doors as possible.</p>

<p>An undergrad degree may or may not have a lot of influence on what you do later in life. I know doctors, lawyers and mathematicians, for example, who have performance degrees from conservtories. On the other hand, I know professional musicians with degrees in engineering, chemistry, and even some with no degree at all.</p>

<p>My own family is full of musicians who have all seemed to approach things from a different direction. I was a singer from a young age and, while my parents were supportive in getting me lessons, they were also very happy when I applied to colleges in Engineering. While at college, I spent more time in the music building than in the Engineering library and eventually performed a full solo recital sponsored by the music department. While I still earn a living from engineering and usually enjoy what I do at work, I sing with a local opera company and a very good community chorus.</p>

<p>While in high school, my wife studied with the principal flutist of the Met Opera orchestra. He urged her to apply to places like Juilliard and Curtis, but she did not like the idea of going to school in a city. She wound up with a music ed degree from a small college with a good music program. After trying to make it as a freelance musician and by giving flute lessons through a local music store, she decided that she did not want that life. She went back to school and learned about computers and now works for a large insurance company. She still teaches flute at a local college and plays two or three paying gigs a month with some local professional ensembles.</p>

<p>Our daughter discovered the double bass in eighth grade after being an indifferent violin student for several years. She is now at Oberlin Conservatory with hopes of eventually establishing an orchestral career. She is in a double major program as well, with the second major still waffling back and forth between math and physics. Like you, she loves music and can't imagine herself in any other field. She takes the other classes because she likes them, not because she thinks they will provide her with a backup plan in case the music doesn't work out.</p>

<p>My son has only been playing the guitar for a couple of years, but he has gotten pretty good at it in that time. He has no idea at all of what he wants to do with his life and has shown very little interest in college planning even though he is about to start his junior year of high school. I have no idea of what he will wind up doing, but I think he will do just fine for himself if we can get him through the next few years.</p>

<p>We on this forum tend to obsess over college in general and a small number of highly selective colleges in particular. Please don't let our ramblings convince you that getting into a specific school or program is a definition of success, or even a necessary path for success. A lot of the jobs that will be available when you enter the workforce have not yet been invented.</p>

<p>Keep up the hard work on the violin and learn all you can in high school. Take the advice of the other posters here - get the best teacher you can, read the Peabody articles, play and listen to a lot of music that you love.</p>