Merit Aid Percentage from Common Data Set

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<p>You can find a lot of this information in this government web site: [Student</a> Aid on the Web](<a href=“http://studentaid2.ed.gov/gotocollege/campustour/]Student”>http://studentaid2.ed.gov/gotocollege/campustour/)</p>

<p>It does not have the raw numbers included in the Common Data Set, but it does have all the useful percentages, including percentage of students without need who received non-need-based aid. It has data even for colleges (like U of Chicago) that don’t make their Common Data Sets publicly available.</p>

<p>The only thing I still find useful in the US News data is that for public universities, it will give you a comparison of grants, self-help, etc. for in-state vs. out-of-state students.</p>

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<p>Re: the 22%
From the USN&WR 2009 Ultimate College Guide…
“Among students who received aid based on merit, the average award (and the proportion receiving): $18,140 (22%).”</p>

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<p>(Just to recap, I find the number of non-need students getting merit aid divided by the total number of non-need students. This gives an indication of how likely it is for a non-need student to get a merit award at a given school.)</p>

<p>I found a treasure trove of Common Data Set at www . collegedata . com. Added Lafayette and Rochester. Rochester is quite high.</p>

<p>I found the 22% number that danas referenced (but still not on the USN&WR premium site–I bet danas had the print edition!) It is a number found by dividing the number of non-need students getting merit aid by the total number of students. I maintain you should divide by the total number of non-need students.</p>

<p>Legend:
School…
non-need kids with awards %;
$average non-need award
(number of non-need awards / number of non-need freshman)</p>

<p>Bucknell…6%; $11,126 (30 / 465)
Case Western…71%; $20,329 (189 / 265)
Pitt…18%; $13,504 (294 / 16544)
Maryand…30%; $5,441 (695 / 2298)
Delaware…28%; $6,073 (654 / 2342)
RPI…94%; $14,085 (436 / 464)
WPI…87%; $12,288 (158 / 181)
Rhodes…75%; $13,060 (200 / 265)
Smith…13%; $8,973 (35 / 272)
Dartmouth…1%; $450 (4 / 562)
Brown…0%; $0 (0 / 863)
Princeton…0%; $0 (0/559)
JHU…2%; $27,471 (14/621)</p>

<p>Rochester…73%; $9,620 (388/529)
Lafayette…24%; $12,894 (56/229)
Duke…3%; $36,009 (30/1025) (2007 numbers)</p>

<p>Any requests?</p>

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<p>I love this! just the way it is! Thank you.</p>

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<p>dad o 2…
are institutional grants included in the award percentages you listed? and…thanks for putting your listing together.</p>

<p>fafsa site informs students…that you’ll want to find out about the types of grants awarded by each colleges you are considering…(non-need and need).</p>

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<p>Dado2 - If you are taking requests I would be interested in:</p>

<p>USC
Vanderbilt
Wake Forest
Virginia</p>

<p>Thanks!!!</p>

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<p>Fordham, Colorado College, Fairfield, Villanova, Manhattan College</p>

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<p>Would be much appreciated.</p>

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<p>Wow, thank for doing this. I feel like I should at least buy you a cup of coffee! If you get the time, I’d love to see the info for:</p>

<p>Northeastern
American
George Washington
Brandeis</p>

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<p>Princeton would expect a great deal less money per year from us compared to other schools that also do not offer merit aid. So, I would encourage people to at least run the numbers at Princeton. Sorry to go off topic.</p>

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<p>Remember that these calculations are probably from last year or earlier, right?? This year schools have had to reduce the number and/or level of these type of merit awards - they needed to free up funds so that matriculated students whose financial situations have worsened considerably can stay in school. I know of two schools on that list at least that, if you were to calculate this based on what they did this year, would not look as good.</p>

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<p>Dado2- Can I put in a request for NYU?
Thanks!</p>

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<p>(Just to recap, I find the number of non-need students getting merit aid divided by the total number of non-need students. This gives an indication of how likely it is for a non-need student to get a merit award at a given school.)</p>

<p>Legend:
School…
non-need kids with awards %;
$ average non-need award
(# non-need awards / # non-need freshman)</p>

<p>Bucknell…6%; $11,126 (30 / 465)
Case Western…71%; $20,329 (189 / 265)
Pitt…18%; $13,504 (294 / 16544)
Maryand…30%; $5,441 (695 / 2298)
Delaware…28%; $6,073 (654 / 2342)
RPI…94%; $14,085 (436 / 464)
WPI…87%; $12,288 (158 / 181)
Rhodes…75%; $13,060 (200 / 265)
Smith…13%; $8,973 (35 / 272)
Dartmouth…1%; $450 (4 / 562)
Brown…0%; $0 (0 / 863)
Princeton…0%; $0 (0/559)
JHU…2%; $27,471 (14/621)</p>

<p>Rochester…73%; $9,620 (388/529)
Lafayette…24%; $12,894 (56/229)
Duke…3%; $36,009 (30/1025) </p>

<p>USC…30%; $13,757 (706/2381)
Vandy…23%; $12,879 (223/982)
Wake…8%; $12,427 (66/815)
UVA…15%; $7,403 (411/2658)</p>

<p>Fordham…47%; $9,259 (489/1032)
Colo College…7%; $10,961 (26/391)
Fairfield…11%; $18,232 (43/401)
Villanova…10%; $8,972 (96/991)
Manhannan…48%; $8,443 (226/466)</p>

<p>Northeastern…72%; $13,970 (876/1224)
American…36%; $16,086 (367/1027)
GW…27%; $22,632 (441/1624)
Brandeis…25%; $17,940 (128/513)</p>

<p>NYU…9%; $7,250 (327/3456)</p>

<p>So my winners in the highest percentage contest include Case, Rochester, RPI, WPI, Rhodes, and Northeastern.</p>

<p>I wasn’t real careful to record the years that the data was for, but I think most of the numbers are from the 2007-2008 freshman class, and numbers could change!</p>

<p>Good point by pug about Princeton (and similar schools? not on my radar screen!)</p>

<p>condor–Yes, this is money given by the school (institution?), but I’m only talking about money given to students who do not have financial need (as defined by the school?). There is additional “merit” money awarded to students with financial need.</p>

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<p>If you’re still taking requests:</p>

<p>U. Richmond
Syracuse
TCNJ
Dickinson
Franklin & Marshall
Denison
Carleton</p>

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<p>^^ Carleton will be near 0; the only merit aid they give is National Merit Scholarships to all finalists.</p>

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<p>Hi Dad’o’2,</p>

<p>I also found that particular data in the Common Data Set to be very helpful and I really zeroed in on it. It’s a shame that every school doesn’t publish one.</p>

<p>I also found some good information on IPEDS. I used it to supplement the info in the common data set. The data they have collected must combine ALL institutional grant aid into one number (need based and non-need) but it gives you an overall idea of how generous a school might be with grant aid overall.</p>

<p>Warning to stats hounds: I found IPEDs addicting.</p>

<p>This is just a cut and paste from one of my spreadsheets.</p>

<p>College/average amt of institutional grant aid/percent receiving institutional grant aid</p>

<p>Muhlenberg College /13241/72
Ursinus College/16301/ 96
Franklin and Marshall College/16361/62
Gettysburg College /16996/69
Saint Joseph’s University/7991/87
Washington College/11240/79
Goucher College/13782/70
University of Delaware/5512/48
University of Maryland-College Park/5185/45</p>

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<p>(Just to recap, I find the number of non-need students getting merit aid divided by the total number of non-need students. This gives an indication of how likely it is for a non-need student to get a merit award at a given school.)</p>

<p>Legend:
School…
non-need kids with awards %;
$ average non-need award
(# non-need awards / # non-need freshman)</p>

<p>Bucknell…6%; $11,126 (30 / 465)
Case Western…71%; $20,329 (189 / 265)
Pitt…18%; $13,504 (294 / 16544)
Maryand…30%; $5,441 (695 / 2298)
Delaware…28%; $6,073 (654 / 2342)
RPI…94%; $14,085 (436 / 464)
WPI…87%; $12,288 (158 / 181)
Rhodes…75%; $13,060 (200 / 265)
Smith…13%; $8,973 (35 / 272)
Dartmouth…1%; $450 (4 / 562)
Brown…0%; $0 (0 / 863)
Princeton…0%; $0 (0/559)
JHU…2%; $27,471 (14/621)</p>

<p>Rochester…73%; $9,620 (388/529)
Lafayette…24%; $12,894 (56/229)
Duke…3%; $36,009 (30/1025) </p>

<p>USC…30%; $13,757 (706/2381)
Vandy…23%; $12,879 (223/982)
Wake…8%; $12,427 (66/815)
UVA…15%; $7,403 (411/2658)</p>

<p>Fordham…47%; $9,259 (489/1032)
Colo College…7%; $10,961 (26/391)
Fairfield…11%; $18,232 (43/401)
Villanova…10%; $8,972 (96/991)
Manhannan…48%; $8,443 (226/466)</p>

<p>Northeastern…72%; $13,970 (876/1224)
American…36%; $16,086 (367/1027)
GW…27%; $22,632 (441/1624)
Brandeis…25%; $17,940 (128/513)</p>

<p>NYU…9%; $7,250 (327/3456)</p>

<p>Richmond…11%; $29,539 (61/571)
Syracuse…27%; $9,440 (390/688)
TCNJ…47%; $6,386 (320/688)
Dickinson…9%; $10,571 (31/331)
F&M…39%; $12,844 (129/335)
Carleton…12%; $2,990 (33/265)</p>

<p>Muhlenberg…41%; $10,585 (171/418)
Ursinus…36%; $12,381 (60/169)
Gettysburg…30%; $10,665 (103/346)
St. Joseph…28%; $9,885 (13/46)
Washington Co…49%; $12,211 (94/190)
Goucher…40%; $13,951 (117/294)</p>

<p>Interesting to compare non-need merit awards with pumpkin’s average institutional grant numbers (need & non-need).</p>

<p>Carleton is low, as bingle predicted, but around $3K vs. the $2K National Merit Scholarship advertised by the school.</p>

<p>Another factor on state schools is in-state vs. out-of-state, but don’t have any data on that.</p>

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<p>Thanks, DadO2.
This puts a lot more perspective on things for me. I quit looking at NYU on CC, it seemed as if almost all of the kids posting there got merit aid. I was seriously wondering why D ( whose stats are way above the middle range) did not. his really brings home the point that the students on CC are not “typical”!</p>

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<p>Dad’o’2 is my hero! :)</p>

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<p>Fallgirl–right on cc kids not being typical. I can accept that my kid might not be one of the top 9%!</p>

<p>GreatWhiteNorth–aw shucks :o</p>

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<p>Hi Dad’o’2 - I was looking for the CDS data on www . collegedata . com and I don’t see any raw numbers - just selected percentages. Can you say where you found the treasure trove? Thanks!</p>

<p>I was trying to make sense of the Muhlenberg info you found - it doesn’t seem to match what I see on Student Aid on the Web, but it might be an apples and oranges thing.</p>