Merit/Fin. Aid question?

Money is the #1 factor for which school I plan on going to, and some of my math and whatnot may be flawed {(been awhile since I had a math class) also I’m not FC}

But my primary question is,
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With the total cost per year at tulane being around $65K, and with the Presidential covering $32K/yr plus TOPS $5K/yr, that brings the tuition to $28k/yr
(Also applied for PTA so in that scenario, would that bring it to $15K (R/B? or 10K if TOPS helps pay for that?)

How does financial aid fit into all of this? Assuming we do the FAFSA stuff and whatnot, is it possible for Fin. Aid to stack with merit to lower the costs even more? How do schools award FAFSA $ anyways, is it based on income and if so, is there a certain amount to expect for a particular income bracket? What about work study?

(Total family Inc.($100-150k/yr and while that is enough to cover the costs, my mom has been through a rough year and the reason money is the #1 factor for me is because I don’t want her to have to work any harder than she has to right now and I feel as though I should be able to get by without her help)

Thanks again if anyone is able to shed more light on this, I hope I’ll be able to attend Tulane knowing that my mom can focus on saving up for my not-so scholarly younger sibling.

@tigerbomb05

OK, here is the short primer, I hope. COA = Cost of attendance, which is everything, and we can use the $65,000 number you mention as a good estimate for Tulane.

EFC = Estimated Financial Contribution. This is the amount that a school figures you (meaning your family in most cases) can pay towards the cost of your education. This is calculated from the FAFSA and, in the case of private schools especially, a form called the CSS.

So most simply, financial aid comes in two forms, merit based and need based. These are completely separate at Tulane in the sense that merit is awarded regardless of need, and need is given even if you have won merit aid if your EFC is still lower than the COA. So it is very important to realize that there is no way to “wipe out” or reduce the EFC unless you earn enough merit money that the gap between the merit award and the COA is less than your EFC. Let’s do two quick examples.

Suppose for your family the EFC turns out to be $20,000 per year. That means, after taking into account the income of the family minus certain kinds of expenses, such as having another child in college already, it is determined that your family should be able to afford to pay $20,000 each year. That leaves $45,000 to cover Tulane’s COA. $32,000 is covered by the Presidential, and $5,000 by TOPS. That leaves $8,000. So your FA package based on need would be $8,000. Another way to look at it is that the $32,000 plus the $5,000 are assets in the “bank” and therefore your EFC is now $37,000 + $20,000 = $57,000. Same thing, but it makes my statement in bold above easier to understand. The $57,000 is still lower than the COA, so a need based package is required. This can come in any of 3 forms, often a mix.

[ul]
[li]It can be a grant, which is a lot like your merit award in that it doesn’t have to be paid back, but it is reevaluated every year as your family’s financials might have changed. If everything stays the same, Tulane will usually keep the grant portion of the FA package pretty consistent as well, although it does appear to depend on how well you are doing in school. I have seen them increase the grant portion for students that are really doing well in school, and they have decreased it for students that don’t seem to be putting in the effort.[/li]
[li]It can be loans, which are self explanatory to a large degree. There are Federal loans, which generally have more favorable terms I believe, and private loans. The amount of Federal loans are capped each year, and that information should be readily available in numerous places, including the Financial Aid forums on CC.[/li]
[li]Finally there is work-study, also pretty self explanatory.[/li][/ul]
Now suppose you win the Stamps, which covers full COA. Obviously your family pays nothing, the EFC is wiped out because the gap between merit awards and COA is zero. But suppose you “only” win full tuition plus fees, which I think is about $49,000. That leaves $16,000 for everything else, which is lower than your EFC. So you save compared to winning nothing or winning less that full tuition, but your family is still paying the gap between the merit award and COA. In that case there is no need based aid because it was determined that your family can afford what remained to be paid. Of course any family is free to go out and get private loans if they can.

This is not my area of really detailed expertise, so if anyone sees and error in my write-up or thinks something can be explained better/more detail, by all means feel free.

@fallenchemist

Thanks for the quick reply as usual FC, I do have a better concept of FA now and what it means for attending Tulane!

Appreciate you taking the time to answer any questions I have as I will undoubtedly have a lot of free time next semester to focus more on saving for college and exploring my options (even though Tulane is currently #1 or 2 depending on Merit)

No problem. That’s a question lots of people have.

your family income range of 100-150k is pretty wide and could yield an EFC from around 16k-34k - depending on specifics (# siblings in college, assets (both your parents’ assets and your assets), and your income too). There is a term called ‘gapping’ which refers the ‘gap’ in your EFC and the actual Net Price that the school determines for you. You will hopefully be a student that they really want (considering your scholarship) so less gapping should be in play, but Tulane doesn’t claim to meet 100% of a student’s need.

just google ‘EFC’ ‘Net Price’ ‘Gapping’. Not sure if the Tulane Net Price Calculator is helpful when the scholarship is considered, maybe.

EFC estimator: http://www.stratagee.com/resources/efc_quick_reference/1213_efc_quick_reference.html

Sorry, blogs from individuals (as opposed to sponsored by the university or an established news organization) are not allowed. I had to delete that. You are allowed to share those via PM however. - FC

Just wanted to add that for students looking to lower the cost of attending, after freshmen year you can apply to be an RA (Resident Assistant). It’s not for everyone, it can be a pain and some residents are not particularly nice to RA"s but it gives you free housing and $1800 towards your meal plan.

OP, just send me a message if you want the link to that helpful blog. o’shaughnessy also writes for cbs moneywatch so many of her articles can be found there too, not just on her blog.

@fallenchemist So, if a student gets either DHS or PTS and is qualified for TOPS award, can the TOPS money be used for R&B? In our case, my son would also qualify for the Tulane Tuition waiver and will get TOPS (if he applies). Can he use the TOPS money for R&B?

@Anamgol

That’s one I have not run into yet. My gut reaction is that since TOPS is paid for by the state and not Tulane, they will allow you to add it on to the DHS/PTA award. My thinking is that it is analogous to the $2,000 stipend that NMF awardees get. My D was allowed to apply that against her R&B bill, so I don’t see why it wouldn’t be the same for the $5,300 or so that TOPS is. But to be 100% sure, call or email the financial aid office. Let us know what you find, especially if you find I am wrong.

Thank you FC and I will report back with what I find.

@Anamgol

Yes my son has DHS and TOPS (also 800 stipend). TOPS and stipend basically covers his meal ticket and we pay for the books and room - :slight_smile: it is great when their hard work pays off and WE get this break in cost.

@tigerbomb05

The 65K includes travel and other expenses so you can probaby take those costs out as you won’t be travelling that far to use the amount they suggest. Also if you live in the area and won’t need room and board then you can subtract that cost. Look at the break down of the costs but basically calculate tuition, fees, room and board (if needed) and books.

@dbcbs5

That’s fantastic info, thanks. Seemed like it should be that way but you hate to say 100% without verifying. Wow, that’s nearly a Stamps or Hainkel!!

I am 95% sure @tigerbomb05 lives too far from NOLA to commute. But still, travel costs should less than Tulane estimates. And in some majors, you can do books for far less as well, if you are OK with used books from Amazon or elsewhere. Some majors you have to pay the blackmail price. My D only spent about $75 on books her last couple of semesters, each semester.

Textbook rentals are a godsend too. So much savings!

I should add that there were semesters when I spent more than $75 in a semester on books easily, and that was 35 years earlier! Of course the only option then for any savings was used books from the bookstore, pretty much.

@dbcbs5 Thank you! That’s great to hear!