<p>Just depends on whose side you are on, lol.</p>
<p>You also need to factor in how the use of the common app inflates the number of applicants a school receives. It also helps UM's selectivity.</p>
<p>Bu verall both schools are pretty much comparable in selectiity.
Value received.....that's a whole other thread.</p>
<p>According to Kiplinger: UF is the second overall best value in all of Higher Education. </p>
<p>"Sun Tan U" can brag about their hearty curriculum all they want, but it still does not change the fact that UF is better for Engineering, Pre-Law, Business, Education, Pre-Med, etc...</p>
<p>and the perennial UF trolls can not control themselves.... " Sun Tan U" ? How old are you SSbick, fifty something right ?? It shows..</p>
<p>^thats pretty harsh myopinion....in my time at CC, all i have ever seen from SSobick is his honest word and opinion, never once have I seen him OFFEND anyone.</p>
<p>and btw: according to his profile, he is 28, I dont think a man like him would lie about his age, so next time do a little something called THINKING before u run ur mouth</p>
<p>gpowsang, lay off MyOpinion. He's a UM troll..there is no lower form of CC scum</p>
<p>Lmao and btw, SSobick is accused of being a UF troll on the UF forum. However, this isn't the UM troll's first foray into the UF forum</p>
<p>my apologies, i didn't realize MyOpinion's level on the food chain, now i know not to waste my time in the future.</p>
<p>You realize you all are being children, right?</p>
<p>He started it</p>
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<p>For the record, I don't really think admission rates count for anything when trying to determine how selective a university is. While applying last year, I've discovered colleges with very low admit rates actually can be pretty easy to get into. For example, USF has a 50% admit rate, but FIU's is 47%. FIU simply isn't as selective as USF, as many people here already know.</p>
<p>On the flipside, I've also seen colleges with very high admit rates can be more difficult, like the University of Illinois-Champaign, which publishes a 71% admit rate, but boasts high GPAs and ACT scores (mid 50% is 26-31, exactly like UF), and is even ranked higher than UF by US News.</p>
<p>As for the Miami v. UF debate, I think the whole private/public factor really comes into play here. Because Miami doesn't have any in-state quotas to fill for each county, they're free to admit whomever they like. Face it--it's much easier for someone from a very rural Florida county to get into UF than someone from Broward, Dade, Palm Beach, Orange, and whatever two counties make up the Tampa Area (My west-coast geography is horrible).</p>
<p>This means, if you're an in-state student, UF is much harder to get into. However, if you're out of state, they're on equal footing.</p>
<p>^^Interesting post. However, UF has a very high yield, which of course is also due to the excellent combination of value, quality of education and staying close to home.On the other hand, let's look to see how selective these universities are on the basis of admitting more students with the Highest SAT 75th Percentile Scores.</p>
<p>When the top 500 Universities are ranked for Highest SAT 75th Percentile Scores: FLORIDA</p>
<p>University of Miami is 107
University of Florida is 119
Florida State University 279
University of Central Florida is 305
University of South Florida is 382</p>
<p>Well, University of Miami wins. </p>
<p>As far as University of IIlinois, Urbana -Champaign is 79, also higher than UF which accounts for its higher ranking in USNews</p>
<p>Top</a> 500 Ranked Universities for Highest SAT 75th Percentile Scores</p>
<p>MyOpinion in "Another top 10 for UF" thread:
Yes, and here is the reason why, nothing else.</p>
<p>"Students tend to stay pretty close to home, and they're looking to better themselves financially," says David Hawkins, director of public policy and research for the National Association for College Admission Counseling. The combination of affordable tuition and athletic success appears to be a powerful lure for college hopefuls"</p>
<p>I am actually looking for a contributing comment from dvm who is making an interesting point. But, yes, vincanity. I agree with Mr Hawkins.</p>
<p>MyOpinion, New College of Florida actually wins. They're number 58 with a 75 percentile SAT score of 1420.</p>
<p>^^^ Thanks for pointing that out. I was addressing the previous post about UM, UF and U of I. It should also be noted that FIU did not rank high enough to appear in the list.</p>
<p>So what: University of Miami has a slight advantage on the SAT for incoming freshmen the last 2 years. I am sure that UF will be ahead in the near future (the process is cyclical).</p>
<p>UF has a stronger endowment, better graduate programs, more researh expenditures, and a far more successful alumni base (we are 3 times the size). We also have a better overall athletic program. Sun-Tan-U is overrated, and is only a good option for lazy rich kids who could not get into a Top 25 private.</p>
<p>UM can boast about the hearty curriculum all they want, but at the end of the day it fails to beat UF in anything except marketing their product.</p>
<p>You sound pretty insecure.</p>
<p>Haven't you ever looked at Miami's medical and marine-bio departments? You would be impressed.</p>