Miami (OH) v. Georgetown

Transfer Students
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<p>I just finished my freshman year at Miami (OH) and somehow came away with a 3.94 GPA. I know I can do great at this school even though I won't be completely happy with my experience. I was accepted into Georgetown University for this fall and the costs of each school are fairly similar. Georgetown is obviously slightly more, but it's still doable.</p>

<p>The problem I have is that I plan on law school in the future and I've heard how the undergraduate college doesn't factor into law school admissions that much. I would love Georgetown College and the experience would be great. But would it be smarter to tough it out at MU, where I have a good GPA already, or is Georgetown worth it?</p>

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<p>in the law school book i read, the #1 factor at most law schools when considering admissions was "strength of undergraduate program"</p>

<p>EDIT: that could always just mean the courses you take, but i'm sure institution factors into that, as well</p>

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<p>i agree. i'd go to g-town. talk to nspeds about it too.</p>

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<p>Get out of Miami before it is too late! Next year you will start flipping up your shirt collars and playing cornhole all time; that's when they have you.</p>

<p>Also, isn't Miami a PUBLIC university? It is disgusting that it would cost almost as much as Georgetown...</p>

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future and I've heard how the undergraduate college doesn't factor into law school admissions that much

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<p>Oh believe me, it does!</p>

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As far as quality of undergraduate program goes, it definitely matters, particularly if you're planning to apply to a top law school. (I've said this before on cc and I've gotten a lot of pushback.) The reality is that while top law schools take one or two or even a handfull of students from a very wide variety of colleges, they take 20, 30, 40 or even 50 students from top undergraduate programs.</p>

<p>Here is an example:</p>

<p>Undergraduate Schools of J.D. Students Enrolled at Harvard Law School in 2005-2006 (this comes straight from the HLS website)</p>

<p>These undergraduate schools are represented by more than 30 students each at HLS - Brown (51), Columbia (44), Cornell (40), Dartmouth (31), Duke (55), Georgetown (33), Harvard (232), Princeton (65), Stanford (91), UCal-Berkeley (43), UCLA (41), Penn (53) and Yale (126). </p>

<p>Here is sampling of many other schools that are represented - Amherst (16), BC (3), CUNY (1), Colgate (1), Denison (1), Emory (14), FSU (2), GW (8), Howard (8), Michigan State (3), NYU (17), Ohio State (5), Pepperdine (1), Penn State (7), Rice (17), SUNY Binghamton (3), Syracuse (1), Temple (1), Texas A&M (1), TCU (1), Trinity (1), Tulane (3), U of Alabama (2), UCSB (3), UConn (1), U of Georgia (7). U of Maryland (6), UNC (13), Notre Dame (12), U of San Francisco (2), UVA (23), U of Wisconsin (5), Wake Forest (1), Washington and Lee (5), Wichita State (2), Williams (13). </p>

<p>Now, there are over 120 undergraduate schools that send students to HLS. I argue that where you go to school for your undergraduate degree matters, in this case, because it's easier to get 1 of 91 spots that were given to Stanford students than 1 of 1 spots given to students from UConn. </p>

<p>Yes, I've made a lot of assumptions here. First, these are enrolled student numbers, but I'm assuming that they reflect to some degree the number of students from any particular undergraduate school who were admitted (this is Harvard Law, right?). Second, I'm generalizing Harvard's admissions numbers to other top law schools. I base this both on my own assumptions and my real life experience in law school and as an employer recruiting on campus at top schools. Third, I have not taken size of undergraduate institution into account here (i.e. a bigger college will lead to more applicants and more "chances" for admission from a particular undergraduate school). That said, there are huge schools that don't send very many students to HLS at all, despite their size. I've made other assumptions as well. </p>

<p>I hope that this is helpful to you.

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<p>Keep in mind that one huge selling point about Georgetown, if you are a prospective law student, is the early assurance program.</p>

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Early Assurance
The Early Assurance Program is designed to encourage top undergraduates
from Georgetown University to apply to the Law Center. The Program is for Juniors
currently enrolled at Georgetown University, and students in all majors are encouraged to apply. Applications are due by March 15 of your junior year. Early acceptance is designed to give students the freedom to pursue a less conventional curriculum during his or her senior year and is non-binding. For additional information on the Early Assurance Program, please contact the dean of your college.
Early Assurance applicants are exempted from taking the LSAT and registering with the LSDAS. Instead, please include an official transcript with at least five semesters of undergraduate grades. Early Assurance applicants must submit two recommendations, one of which must be the Early Assurance Dean's Certification Form. Competitive Early Assurance applicants should have an undergraduate GPA of at least a 3.8.

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<p>If they are the same cost pretty much, and you prefer georgetown, is it even a real question? Plus, A. Law Schools will still see that 3.94, and B. If you got a 3.94 it seems like you'll be able to maintain a strong GPA at georgetown.</p>