Michigan and the new USNWR+QS rankings

<p>World's</a> Best Colleges: Top 400 - US News and World Report</p>

<p>I was pleasantly surprised when I saw that there was only a .2 point difference between Stanford and Michigan :). Ranked 1'st public uni in the U.S.,</p>

<p>That’s very interesting!!</p>

<p><3 Michigan</p>

<p>Quick question that just doesn’t make sense to me though…</p>

<p>How is Michigan ranked about 25ish on the Top U.S. Universities but 16 on Top World Universities?</p>

<p>Weird…</p>

<p>But hey, can’t complain =D</p>

<p>probably because it has relatively more world prestige vs national than some schools.</p>

<p>I would say because that ranking (26) is for undergrad in the U.S., opposed to these rankings which seems to be a ranking of Michigan as a whole, that my best guess, that or we just have that much more international prestige, e.g. Northwestern is really prestigious in the U.S. but not as much at the world stage; it’s ranked 33. But, who knows, they have methodology which shows how they calculated the rankings. But this is a really nice jump going from last year, tied at 38 all the way to 18, it’s interesting to see Berkeley at 36 and UCLA at 30. Pretty big gap.</p>

<p>“How is Michigan ranked about 25ish on the Top U.S. Universities but 16 on Top World Universities?”</p>

<p>Because in US News, only the undergrad program is taken, so they didn’t take into consideration the med school, law school and graduate schools. QS ranked both grad and undergrad so that’s why. Since UM med school wasn’t taken into consideration, their ranking went down.</p>

<p>Academically, even the USNWR ranks Michigan among the top 10 or top 15. The academic reputation rating of the University of Michigan is always tied with or slightly lower or higher than those of those top universities such as Brown, Chicago, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Northwesrern and Penn. </p>

<p>The reason why Michigan drops in the USNWR is not because of academicfactors, but because of its Financial and Faculty resources ranking, its graduation and its alumni donation rate. Remove those four criteria and include just academic reputation and selectivity and Michigan is ranked in the top 15. </p>

<p>Even with financial resources and graduate rates included, Michigan is still ranked among the top 20. It is the Faculty resources (which is not properly measured) and alumnni donation rates (which are directly and inversely correlated to the size of the university because smaller alumni bodies are easier to reach) criteria that knock Michigan (and most public universities) out of their true peer groups.</p>

<p>At any rate, the QS is not reliable, nor are most rankings (including the USNWR).</p>

<p>Nicely stated Alexandre =)</p>

<p>It’s sad that soo many prospective college students base their choices off school rankings and such.</p>

<p>How do you “rate” colleges and such?</p>

<p>I know ranking systems are fairly inaccurate, and we depend too much on them, but are they not the best we have?</p>

<p>“It’s sad that so many prospective college students base their choices off school rankings and such.”</p>

<p>I think students are beginning to learn not to rely on ranking solely any more.</p>

<p>“How do you “rate” colleges and such?”</p>

<p>If my mean “rate” as in like “ranking” them and saying which one is better, well you don’t</p>

<p>"If my mean “rate” as in like “ranking” them and saying which one is better, well you don’t "
…we all know that’s never going to happen :)</p>

<p>Heplayer, picking a college based off of numbers and rankings makes the most sense. There’s not much someone can know about a college without going there.</p>