<p>They classified me as an out of state student. <em>*!
My parents and I have lived in Michigan for more than 12 years. My parents also work in Michigan, file a Michigan state taxes. They have never worked outside of Michigan. I am not an international student, I have a PR green card. None of the items on the list on there website apply to me or my family. I called them and they told me to submit a residency application. *</em>!
I mailed it in and am waiting to see what they have to say.</p>
<p>I don't want this affecting my chances on admission</p>
<p>So Tell Them</p>
<p>THey make this mistake a lot. Just call them and they'll get it cleared up. As a transfer student, I got marked as OOS, and called them; they cleared it up in 5 minutes. Seriously, the time that it takes you to type out this complaint on CC, is roughly the time it takes for them to realize their mistake and change your residency. Cheers :)</p>
<p>Gonna call them up tommorow</p>
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<p>It's pretty much irrelevant how long you've been in Michigan for. If you're a permanent resident, you're going to get flagged, classified as an oos and made to submit an application. Don't think that this is simple to fix - it takes at least a month (and sometimes much much longer) for them to review that residency application. I got in the school while being OOS, despite having been in the state for the better part of a decade. I was getting OOS scholarships before I was finally classified in state. </p>
<p>It's not a fun situation, and Michigan isn't "dumb." It's more of a sad ploy to create as many oos situations as possible. For most of us who have to deal with it, it works out, but not without some serious headache (and lots and lots of phone calls).</p>
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<p>Not likely in this scenario. It's not a mistake.</p>
<p>^^Not always true. I had a job at University of Michigan (when I started I was a Permanent Resident), now I'm a citizen and that's what I put on my application. I only recently remembered to submit the change of status forms for my job, but on my WA it still says Permanent Resident. They still consider me in state even though it says PR on my WA.</p>
<p>hpandu, I can't guarantee this happens every single time, but I know of many, many more situations like mine than like yours. Plus it seems you have a slightly different set of considerations compared to the op (or me.)</p>
<p>I certainly hope that the op has his problem fixed quickly. I'm just a bit skeptical about the way the university handles this.</p>
<p>Wow. Sorry to hear that. This just shows that UM is so greedy. I don't appreciate the fact that OOS students pay 3x more than in state students either.</p>
<p>You missed checking one of the boxes...
Give their residency offices a call and they will fix it.</p>
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It's pretty much irrelevant how long you've been in Michigan for. If you're a permanent resident, you're going to get flagged, classified as an oos and made to submit an application. Don't think that this is simple to fix - it takes at least a month (and sometimes much much longer) for them to review that residency application. I got in the school while being OOS, despite having been in the state for the better part of a decade. I was getting OOS scholarships before I was finally classified in state.
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<p>I'm a PR and I did mine in 5 minutes. I beg to differ sir.</p>
<p>MightyNick,</p>
<p>I don't think that UM is out of line as far as state schools go. All of them do it, and it makes sense that they do it.</p>
<p>It makes sense that they do it? So it makes sense for them to be greedy and stupid?</p>
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<p>No, it isn't, because they have a process for correcting it if it is an error. If it's wrong, then you can correct it and it's no longer an "oos situation." </p>
<p>Somewhere along the way they decided it's better to do it this way (to be extra strict and have to do corrections) than the other way (to be extra lenient and have people get resident tuition they are not entitled to). </p>
<p>Honestly, how many misclassified residents are going to rush to file the paperwork to clarify that they DON'T deserve the state-subsidized rate? For a selective school like Michigan, I think erring on the side of caution is the smart way to go. </p>
<p>Regrettably, it is a hassle for people who get misclassified at first.</p>
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It makes sense that they do it? So it makes sense for them to be greedy and stupid?
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<p>Michigan is not in the business of charity. It must seek out funding where it can, and out-of-staters is one of its sources. Yes, in the OPs case this is an unfortunate side effect of making very specific rules that will sometimes target unusual cases, but for the most part out-of-staters should be charged more! After all, Michigan's ostensible goal is to educate in-staters first, and out-of-staters second.</p>
<p>I called them today and they told me the reason for marking me OOS. They said because I traveled outside the country for 3 weeks during my Junior year, it messed up their system and marked me OOS. They told me that processing my residency app would take 8 weeks. I hope this doesn't affect my admissions decision.</p>
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No, it isn't, because they have a process for correcting it if it is an error. If it's wrong, then you can correct it and it's no longer an "oos situation"
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<p>Hoedown, I have a lot of respect for you and I know you're the expert on all admissions issues. However, I fail to understand how it's possible to have and not be able to fix such situations instantly. The OP here is in the same position I was. If it's absolutely clear that he is a resident, why the need for an 8-week review process which often classifies one as an oos student during the entire application review?</p>
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Hoedown, I have a lot of respect for you and I know you're the expert on all admissions issues. However, I fail to understand how it's possible to have and not be able to fix such situations instantly. The OP here is in the same position I was. If it's absolutely clear that he is a resident, why the need for an 8-week review process which often classifies one as an oos student during the entire application review?
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<p>Maybe it's not the actual review process that takes 8 weeks but processing the application, ect?</p>
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Hoedown, I have a lot of respect for you and I know you're the expert on all admissions issues. However, I fail to understand how it's possible to have and not be able to fix such situations instantly.
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<p>Well, I feel compelled to clarify that I'm not an expert.</p>
<p>As for why this isn't instantaneous, the only way i could see it being instantaneous is if the institution was willing to take a student's word for it. I think that's unwise. </p>
<p>Should it take 8 weeks? I dunno, that seems like a long time for a clear-cut case. But I don't know what goes on in the residency office and how many appeals they have to deal with. I do know that the legislature checks up on our residency policies (most recently, they've been worried about illegal aliens getting resident tuition) and generally they seem supportive of U-M's draconian approach. It's nice they think we do SOMETHING right.</p>
<p>Bit of a tangent here: This summer a student's residency got all whacked because he's military offspring. His case was in limbo and he went to the press about it. It was embarrassing for the University but it was probably good that it happened because they clarified one part of the policy dealing with military families.</p>
<p>So Michigan penalizes the in-state students who they determine to be OOS residents by putting them into the OOS pool until they can do their research that takes 8 weeks? Just sounds like a brilliant system!</p>