Your telling me I should do research? Wow maybe you should to. Cause last time I checked Princeton doesn’t and nor do the UC schools including Berkeley. </p>
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Hmmm did you ever say that to me? Go back and read your posts please. Cause last time I checked you didn’t tell me that. </p>
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Hmm I don’t think I’m putting words into your mouth. I said according to your words. From what you have said, you pretty much only have cared about GPA and SAT. You didn’t say anything about difficulty of classes. So I don’t think I’m putting words into your mouth because you continuously said GPA and SAT.</p>
<p>Michigan is incredibly strong as a university. Why do we have to argue that it’s super selective? It’s not. It’s possibly the only university(Cornell/Berkeley used to qualify) in the US whose prestige has nothing to do with exclusivity.</p>
<p>oh man i did not get those brain teasers, well i have not spent more than a minute on each, so i will try em out later. Bad huh if i am thinking about going into some biz sort of stuff or even engineering, which is what i am majoring in. </p>
<p>Btw about the whole mich selectivity thingy, mich is a hella guud school. I have supposedly “good stats” too but I felt when i went to orientation, that i was very much in the middle of the pack. I am probably not as smart as the op or most of the ppl on this thread, but i have a feeling when i get on campus i am gonna be in for a harsh reality on where i actually stand. To be honest I am kinda afraid that I am gonna get my a ss handed to me this coming fall. I feel like i am a lot more behind than al lthe engineer kids.</p>
<p>I have the same feeling. Like when I went to orientation I kind of felt dumb in some regards. But one thing I did learn from orientation is that I have to follow my own path and not worry about everyone else. Michigan is going to be a reality check for a lot of students, not just you. I just love the school, so I don’t even give a damn.</p>
<p>toasterovern and Entertainer, don’t feel bad…there is always a bigger fish out there! hehe! The fact that you are humble will serve you well. You will be fine at Michigan. </p>
<p>But people who underestimate Michigan beware. My cousin was valedictorian of her Huron High school class. She graduated with a straight 4.0 GPA and had a perfect 36 on her ACT. She was admitted into MIT and Princeton but chose to go to Michigan because of in-state tuition (she comes from a relatively wealthy family so she got no aid from MIT or Princeton). </p>
<p>Her first year, she assumed that by virtue of being so gifted, she would ace her classes without trying hard. She ended up with a 3.4 GPA (for the year), and that’s only after waking up to realize if she did not bust her behind for her finals, she would end her first term at Michigan with sub-3.0 GPA. As it turns out, she managed to end her first term with a 3.3 GPA and her second term with a 3.5 GPA. She really studied very hard her second term to end with that 3.5. That’s when she switched from pre-med to Engineering because she did not want to go through another three years of such hard work. I have a similar experience…as did most people I know who graduated with similar stats. Michigan has a huge undergraduate student population and many students at Michigan are not gifted. However, as I have always stated, over half of Michigan’s students are of the highest calibre. Many of them had the stats to prove it (3.8+ unweighed GPAs and 32+/2200+ ACT/SAT scores) whereas others were late bloomers who had slightly lower GPAs and test scores. But once at Michigan, many of those underachievers will blossom and the competition sets in. </p>
<p>If one wishes to be surounded by a lot of talented and intelligient intellectuals and to push themselves academically, there isn’t a better place than Michigan. In terms of overall excellence, Michigan is universally rated among the top 20 in the US and often rated among the top 10. In terms of undergraduate experience, I cannot think of a better place to go to college.</p>
<p>So, 3 days, 9 pages and a few riddles later, this guy finally apologizes. For being such a “smart” guy it sure took you long enough to figure why people were ****ed, eh?</p>
<p>I was never really mad; I didn’t even pay attention to this thread. Michigan is my top choice by far, I know its a great school, and some guy on the internet won’t make me change my mind about that. I’m just wondering though, why are you attending Michigan if you think 75% of its students are dumb? That seems kinda…dumb.</p>
<p>He likes the recruiting options at Michigan. He thinks the university is great. However he thinks it isn’t selective. It’s true, in terms of overall acceptance rate, but in terms of actual statistics, Michigan is very selective. </p>
<p>@Alexandre: Do you have any advice on time management. I keep hearing about it and how important it is to success in college, but I don’t understand the meaning behind it. I’m trying to create a flexible schedule in regard to the amount of hours I should study, exercise, and be involved(Organizations/Clubs) each day. Will that help? Any thoughts?</p>
<p>Alexandre, I respect your knowledge and your input.</p>
<p>“So, 3 days, 9 pages and a few riddles later, this guy finally apologizes. For being such a “smart” guy it sure took you long enough to figure why people were ****ed, eh?”</p>
<p>I apologized first for quoting collegeboard stats and later for misconveying my thoughts. I never did and will not apologize for believing UMich isn’t selective.</p>
<p>Yes, I chose to attend UM like Alexandre said, it has a great college experience. I like the culture and recruiting options.</p>
<p>An unrelated question, Alexandre, on the Michigan Forum, if you look next to the Michigan Selectivity, there’s something that looks like a tag. What is that?</p>
<p>Number 1, Michigan’s selectivity is not comparable to some smaller schools, but it is still impressive given its size. I have known students who were admitted into Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Rice and even Stanford and rejected by Michigan in the last 2 years alone. I admit that is not “typical”, but it is not unusual either. There is a reason why Michigan is ranked among the 20 most selective universities in the nation by the USNWR. </p>
<p>Of course, given its incoming class size (6,000+ annually), Michigan is not going to be as selective as schools that have incoming class sizes of 1,000 (like Dartmouth or Chicago), 1,500 (like Stanford, Columbia, Duke, WUSTL) or 2,000 (Northwestern) or even 3,000 (Penn and Cornell). Even schools like Cal and UCLA have entering classes of 4,000. And to make matters worse, Michigan is located in one of the least popular areas in the US. Most kids are blinded by the coasts and avoid the Midwest. And the state of Michigan itself is not exactly that populous (population of 10,000,000 compated to over 35,000,000 in California, over 25 million in NY and TX). </p>
<p>But I repeat, Michigan is selective. It is not mega-selective like the Ivies, MIT, Stanford, Caltech etc… but it is still among the 20 most selective schools.</p>