Michigan Selectivity

<p>Solution: privatize. Dump the paltry 7% state funding, reduce size of student body, and switch to a private tuition model. Would probably allow the university to be more selective, provide better financial aid and increase revenue.
Since the state is obviously not holding up their end of the stick, we shouldn’t be holding up ours either. 7% funding to a public university that admits 65% in state students is laughable.
oh damn i just opened another can of worm</p>

<p>One of the things I learned during this internship, you do whatever’s good for yourself, and no one else, nothing else. There is only YOU who look out for yourself. Loyalty has no value in the real world. The university needs to do what’s good for the UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN, not that state of michigan; because the state of michigan isn’t looking out for us either.</p>

<p>i only see people who’s never been in college worrying about selectivity of a powerhouse school like michigan, berkeley. It’s selective enough and actually many people in the state of michigan think it’s too selective.</p>

<p>That was a confusing post.</p>

<p>Bearcats, eventually, Michigan will privatize unless things change. But for now, there are several things Michigan can do. For example, Michigan can reduce its in-state undergraduate student population from 65% to 50% of the overall undergraduate student population. It can also join the common application. Finally, it can start meeting more of OOS need-based aid.</p>

<p>alexandre, your points address the selectivity issue. I was actually trying to address what’s good for the university. People need to know the difference between what’s good for Michigan and what’s good for the state of Michigan.</p>

<p>^^ I don’t know why people in the state of Michigan think it’s too selective. The majority of Michigan residents choose to attend other universities (Michigan State, Western Michigan, Wayne State, Grand Valley State, Eastern Michigan, Ferris State, etc…). The state of Michigan has many university options. No one is entitled to attend U-M.</p>

<p>I believe U-M should lower its in-state undergraduate population to ~50% and accept the common application. That would keep it competitive with its Ivy-caliber peers without losing its public status. The state is extremely fortunate to have such a top-tier university, especially in a location (as Alexandre pointed out) that is considered the most unappealing to high school students who prefer to live on the coasts.</p>

<p>tenisghs. It can’t be that unappealing if it has over 1/3 of it’s students coming from outside of the state, many of those from the coasts.</p>

<p>Well the number is already that high because of the actual university. Trust me, atleast in my area, some ppl did not apply cos of the location, and I always get that weird look when I tell ppl I am going to Michigan, cos of the location.</p>

<p>^^I’d imagine that where you live toasteroven, some people in Michigan wouldn’t want to attend those top schools because of the location as well.</p>

<p>I don’t know which post to quote so I simply won’t quote.</p>

<p>As a Michigan resident, I wouldn’t be looking forward to University of Michigan going private anytime soon ( unless I was already accepted it would be less for me to worry) due to my chances of getting accepted dramatically decreasing.
Though with those speaking of selectivity and University of Michigan competing with Ivy Leagues such as HYPS, I doubt that all universities are out there trying to have a competition with being acknowledge as the usual by USNEWS 1-5 slots. More so for the school(s) to be able to educate their students brilliantly, and applying it to the real world. As I’ve have read already by post, University of Michigan has the largest student body living ( not sure if that is true, but interesting).
Ofcourse the university ( students, facility etc…) wouldn’t take it lightly being known once as a top 5 public university ( or top 30 by USNEWS) to a top 50 university. I also wouldn’t be surprise if they are aiming at not only being more competitive ( but not dramatically as some posters insight) but offering more education, from learning in the classroom ( teaching skills etc…), to recruiment, study abroad programs ( as the school already have) etc… basically offering as much education/ opportunties the school can for successful students and leaders of the future.
Though speaking of the university being more competitive by making dramactic changes ( as some say reducing student body by large) are probably not the first or second steps the university have in thought.</p>

<p>(Yeah I probably forgot a few statements to add…)</p>

<p>Yes, rjkofnovi, Michigan does receive applicants from both coasts (in fact, nearly 2/3rds of its application pool is non-Michigan residents). The university has a great reputation and its alumni are everywhere. However, most OOS high school students see Michigan as a safety.</p>

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Also to add to my post, I’m not sure how well this corresponds, but many of University of Michigan graduate programs rank in top 5, if not top 10.</p>

<p>“I wouldn’t be looking forward to University of Michigan going private anytime soon ( unless I was already accepted it would be less for me to worry) due to my chances of getting accepted dramatically decreasing.”</p>

<p>highly doubt it actually matters for you</p>

<p>^^^I don’t know how that can be true tenisghs. It’s harder to get into from OOS than it is from IS. I’d say they look at Michigan as a school they’d go to IF they don’t get accepted at their dream school(s). Unless an OOS applicant has at least an uw 3.8 avg. and at least a 34 on his/her ACT/SAT equivalent, not sure how they can be so sure Michigan is a safety.</p>

<p>^^ I dont think he means safety as in the safety talks about. </p>

<p>It is the east coast mentality. East coast people think Michigan is a back up to the ivies stanford , caltech, MIT and the like. It is particularly true in private schools.</p>

<p>I totally agree with that statement. I’ve oftentimes said that if the publics on the east coast were better, this attitude would disappear.</p>

<p>Haha, there are no top schools in my state. But yeah my state is very obscure and its state schools are almost all in staters.</p>

<p>^^^^Where are you from toasteroven?</p>

<p>oregon, well theres reed, but that attracts a specific type of person. def not a college for everyone.</p>

<p>I am going to Oregon next week toasteroven for the first time in many years. Beautiful state. Looking forward to it. :-)</p>