Michigan State University or Ohio State University

College Search & Selection
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<p>Which has a better location, academics, music scene, scenery, outdoor activities, women?
help!</p>

<p>i wanna major in marketing or administration and minor in something within the arts, possibly music or photography</p>

<p>Also was maybe considering South Carolina - Columbia, anybody know how it is? how would it compare with this other universities?</p>

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<p>I am very familiar with both of these schools, especially Michigan State University since I live only a few miles away. </p>

<p>East Lansing is a decent college town and have tons of stores around though Ohio State University is located in Columbus, and just xtimes more than East Lansing. Ohio State University downtown area ( not downtown Columbus) also consist of more, and seem to be growing.
Both schools are respected academically though OSU tends to rank ahead of MSU in USNEWS, OSU ranks around 50 and MSU ranks around 80.
I think OSU has a much larger music scene as it’s located in a metro of nearly 2,000,000 while the East Lansing metro is only around 500,000.
MSU and OSU both have park like campuses though I think MSU expands more. Do not know the scenery of OSU but Lansing-East Lansing tend to consist of many trees within the city and outward. Also near the great lakes.</p>

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<p>Oh Sparkeye, where are you? Someone needs your help to give SOLID advise about MSU and tOSU.</p>

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<p>“Do not know the scenery of OSU but Lansing-East Lansing tend to consist of many trees within the city and outward. Also near the great lakes.”</p>

<p>You can always use use a google map.</p>

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<p>What can you afford? Are you OOS for either?</p>

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<p>OOS for both</p>

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<p>I would say Ohio State is more respected academically…also since you are going into marketing/admin. osu because of the better business school…</p>

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<p>Loco…</p>

<p>What state are you in?</p>

<p>Are you a senior?</p>

<p>What is your budget?</p>

<p>Both schools cost a good amount for being OOS.</p>

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<p>Loco . . . c’mon. Two populations of 40,000 - do you honestly think that they’re going to differ statistically in physical attractiveness? :)</p>

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<p>^^More like 45,000 and 50,000, but I agree with you point. ;-)</p>

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<p>I just found out a great way to browse campuses here!</p>

<p>[Live</a> on Campus](<a href=“http://liveoncampus.com/search?campus_finder=United%20States]Live”>http://liveoncampus.com/search?campus_finder=United%20States)</p>

<p>Has all campuses in US and even ones in other countries!</p>

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<p>@rjkofnovi,</p>

<p>“Oh Sparkeye, where are you? Someone needs your help to give SOLID advise about MSU and tOSU.”</p>

<p>Got jumped by a group of gang on the sidewalk of my building over the weekend… Sustained minor injuries and have just reported back with the Police/Detective. Still recuperating…lol (will respond to this thread in the next 24 hrs or so…)</p>

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<p>^^^Really? :-(</p>

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<p>^^ Unfortunately, the Detective who also resides in my building went after the mob was out-numbered 8:1, even though he had carried a gun, did not catch the kid(s) who attacked me (by the time he called for backup, the mob had escaped). I was jumped by four of the kids who tried to rob me, one of them threw a ‘clothesline’ WWF move on me on the sidewalk adjacent to my building @ 1am Saturday morning when I returned from 7-11 redbox rental around the corner. I didn’t go to ER. I did not want to wait hours for the protocol treatment, so I treated myself with analgesics instead. “Fortunately, I did not fall from the ambush; otherwise, I would have returned home left with only a pair of boxer,” said the Door Attendant. I was however, not going to press the charge had the kids been caught, rather, I would have made him attend Sunday morning service with me… oh well, that was that. My building and the neighborhood has been on high alert since. Streeterville is supposed to be the best area in downtown Chicago… =.="</p>

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<p>So sorry. Glad you are alright though. :-)</p>

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<p>^^ Thanks, rjk!! :slight_smile: </p>

<p>I am just grateful that it was an unsuccessful robbery and that I suffered only minor injuries (say compared to the Congresswoman’s case in Arizona…). I think the NU kids (my friends) in my building are more scared at night than I am in which many of them have decided to stay home instead of heading out to the library in the last few days. lol</p>

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Oh wow I visit Chicago about twice a month and have yet to encounter a problem ( even as late between 11pm-4am), not sure were sreeterville is but I usually be in the chicago loop, Lakeview, and Evanston area.</p>

<p>To the OP, my discription is very accurate. Apply to both see where your accepted, and financial more affordable.</p>

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<p>^^ Streeterville is where Navy Pier, Magnificent Mile and Northwestern Law / Med Schools are located at. Loop is not that great of an area imho and Goldcoast is the northern neighbor of Streeterville in downtown.</p>

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<p>“Which has a better location, academics, music scene, scenery, outdoor activities, women?
help!”</p>

<p>When it comes to which has a better location between the two, personally I would definitely have to say The Ohio State University in Columbus. Unless of course, you are into the college town-like atmosphere, then E. Lansing would be perfect for you. Granted, MSU has Meridian Mall nearby and the strip of resteraurents and shops on Grand River Ave, and it’s located 2 miles from the Capitol; Columbus is just a way larger city with 1.8 million population in its metro, there is just no comparison between the two imho. Not to mention, Columbus as the state capitol tops Lansing in terms of tourism, cleaness, entertainments, and the city enjoys a great Town-Gown relationship, unlike East Lansing and Lansing with MSU. Plus, there is really not much if any thing going on in Lansing besides the Triple-A ‘Lugnuts.’ lol</p>

<p>When it comes to music scenes, once again, C-bus has recently been given by the media the title of “Music City of the Midwest.” Though MSU has recently re-opened its reknown Wharton Performing Center ($18.5 Million renovation), OSU’s Mershon Auditorium, Newport Theatre, Ohio Theatre and many more nearby music halls certain put OSU on top in this category. In terms of Music program between the two, I would have to say academically, they are roughly equal with OSU planning to amp-up its Music facility and hiring, and MSU with its past glories such as the reknown violinist - Dorothy Delay and the founding of Music Therapy Program in the country.</p>

<p>Further, when it comes to scenery or campus aesthetics, I would have to give two thumbs-up to MSU in E. Lansing, not just the campus is greener filled with countless number of trees thereby create really a park-like campus rivaled only by IU - Bloomington in Big Ten imho, but also the coherentness of the campus lanscaping. Take away the massive brutalist post-1950s buildings (due to the GI-Bill admission which ultimately resulted in more than doubling the student body), most of MSU’s buildings are actually uniform and coherent, similar architecture to many of the top LACs that I’ve visited in NE and East Coast. In case you are wondering, this is the style I am referring to:</p>

<p>MSU Union: <a href=“http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_bsXkkwwfn8s/SxdWFgBUO8I/AAAAAAAABws/BWWaanL6AO4/s400/DSC00149.JPG[/url]”>http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_bsXkkwwfn8s/SxdWFgBUO8I/AAAAAAAABws/BWWaanL6AO4/s400/DSC00149.JPG&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Most of the older dorms in MSU:
[Campbell</a> entrance | Flickr - Photo Sharing!](<a href=“http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/chacal/1243704179/in/photostream/]Campbell”>Campbell entrance | chacal la chaise | Flickr)
[MSU</a> dorm | Flickr - Photo Sharing!](<a href=“http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/chacal/1244558158/]MSU”>MSU dorm | chacal la chaise | Flickr)</p>

<p>Most of the older classrooms and buildings (ex. My college and Department):
College of Natural Sciences
[The</a> College of Natural Science | Flickr - Photo Sharing!](<a href=“http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/32182718@N00/390844859/]The”>The College of Natural Science | shalansn | Flickr)</p>

<p>My Department/Major (Physiology) @ Giltner Hall
[Giltner</a> Hall (1) | Flickr - Photo Sharing!](<a href=“http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/johnmquick/3831258523/]Giltner”>http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/johnmquick/3831258523/)</p>

<p>My Bio Labs - Kedzie Hall
[All</a> sizes | Kedzie Hall North | Flickr - Photo Sharing!](<a href=“http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/johnmquick/3831258667/sizes/o/in/photostream/]All”>http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/johnmquick/3831258667/sizes/o/in/photostream/)</p>

<p>MSU Auditorium
[Fairchild</a> Theater (1) | Flickr - Photo Sharing!](<a href=“http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/johnmquick/3832052554/in/photostream/]Fairchild”>http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/johnmquick/3832052554/in/photostream/)</p>

<p>I am sure you should get the style by now (not pure gothic). Incidentally, the architect who designed MSU union also designed Michigan Union and League I believe. </p>

<p>On the other hand, when it comes TOSU’s campus architecture, I am reminded of University of Michigan, BIG BIG BIG in terms of the magnitude of the buildings surrounded by a limited green space besides the Oval (Diag) and a few patches of green here and there in terms of lanscape. The buildings vary both in architectural styles and look. In general, unique in its own character, but as a whole, lack of coherence as an inviting campus. P.S. The only architectural coherent buildings in Michigan are the Law Quad imho and that’s for mostly for graduate study.</p>

<p>Interestingly also to share with you guys that when MSU/MAC was admitted to the Big Ten Conference back in the 1950, the school only had 15,000 students, comparable to Nebraska and Northwestern today.</p>

<p>When it comes to outdoor activities, I would have to say they are both equal. Afterall, you are still in the Midwest weather - the schools are roughly 4 hours apart geographically. But if you don’t mean outdoor volleyball or frisbee throwing, Columbus is a metropolitan which offers much more entertainment as I’ve alluded above.</p>

<p>See Experience Columbus V/Clips:</p>

<p>[YouTube</a> - ExperienceColumbus’s Channel](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/user/ExperienceColumbus#p/u]YouTube”>http://www.youtube.com/user/ExperienceColumbus#p/u)</p>

<p>When it comes to Women!!! MSU is known to have the prettiest female student population on average rivaled only by Northwestern in the Big Ten. However, TOSU definitely has a more attractive International student population imho!!</p>

<p>Finally, when it comes to Academics, I would have to simply say that Ohio State has made tremendous strives in the last decade as well as into the future. This is not to say that MSU’s Ox-Cambrige Model of residental colleges is in any way inferior than OSU’s teaching method, rather, OSU has and are making advancements in terms of student selectivity, research expendictures, academic master plan and billion dollar investment in facility upgrades and faculties hire in virtually all diciplines that MSU just is not. Even though programs such as nuclear physics, hospitality management, packaging, supply chain, telecom, and a handful of other msu majors are currently ranked higher than OSU. OSU is truely up-and-coming imho, and I have 2,000+ academics to back me on this one via USNWR. Funny when I applied for admission roughly a decade ago, MSU was actually harder to get in than TOSU; however times have changed!!!</p>

<p>“i wanna major in marketing or administration and minor in something within the arts, possibly music or photography”</p>

<p>Marketing / Administration —> I would suggest OSU as Dean Poon has recently raised Fischer College’s overall ranking tied with Kelley of Indiana via USNWR at #14.</p>

<p>Arts and photography program, I would have to say equal between the two schools as MSU is currently constructing its brand new Broad Contemporary Art Museum and OSU has always had a well regarded Art School.</p>

<p>“Also was maybe considering South Carolina - Columbia, anybody know how it is? how would it compare with this other universities?”</p>

<p>Sorry, no idea about South Carolina - Columbia… </p>

<p>Alright, I am going to stop here; otherwise, this will turn into a long essay!!! lol Plus, I’ve spent more than an hour on 1 post!!! lol Also do check on my other posts if you still have questions, I believe I’ve written over hundreds of posts regarding to these two alma maters of mine over the years here in CC… Anyway, Best of Luck to you!! </p>

<p>Go Bucks!! & Go Green!! :)</p>

<p>P.S. You might find this youtube channel to be useful:</p>

<p>[YouTube</a> - futurebuckeyes’s Channel](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/user/futurebuckeyes?ob=0]YouTube”>http://www.youtube.com/user/futurebuckeyes?ob=0)</p>

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<p>I’ve just went through what I wrote above in which I posted at around 3:30am local time… English gramma was aweful… lol Excuse me!! lol~</p>

<p>Anyhow, I’ve found more MSU pictures:</p>

<p>MSU President’s House on campus</p>

<p><a href=“http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f0/Cowles_House_10_2007_BR.jpg[/url]”>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f0/Cowles_House_10_2007_BR.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>MSU museum</p>

<p>[MSU</a> Museum | Flickr - Photo Sharing!](<a href=“http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/33988281@N00/2382410361]MSU”>MSU Museum | Built in 1924 on the site of the original Willi… | Flickr)</p>

<p>MSU alumni chapel</p>

<p>[MSU</a> ALUMNI CHAPEL 9-30-07 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!](<a href=“http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/pyrs/3707936496/]MSU”>MSU ALUMNI CHAPEL 9-30-07 | pyrpeople | Flickr)</p>

<p>More old brick home style dorms (William, Mayo, philips snyder, etc…)</p>

<p>[Williams</a> Hall 2004 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!](<a href=“http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/eridony/2331227093/]Williams”>Williams Hall 2004 | I lived here for three wonderful years.… | Flickr)
[The</a> Rear of Mayo Hall | Flickr - Photo Sharing!](<a href=“http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/eridony/3639626087/]The”>The Rear of Mayo Hall | Mary Mayo Hall was built in 1931 and… | Flickr)
[Old</a> Campus | Flickr - Photo Sharing!](<a href=“http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/fliedermaus/42419375/]Old”>Old Campus | The old dorms from the early 20th century, This… | Flickr)
<a href=“http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/eridony/2378778319/in/photostream/[/url]”>http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/eridony/2378778319/in/photostream/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>The LAC like campus in fall when leaves are gone</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/eridony/2379615442/in/photostream/[/url]”>http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/eridony/2379615442/in/photostream/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>MSU old library</p>

<p>[Linton</a> Hall | Flickr - Photo Sharing!](<a href=“http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/thealberts/3456990307/]Linton”>Linton Hall | The old library museum at MSU, now known as Li… | Flickr)</p>

<p>Beaumont tower</p>

<p>[Beaumont</a> Tower | Flickr - Photo Sharing!](<a href=“http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/thealberts/3456989279/in/photostream/]Beaumont”>Beaumont Tower | Beaumont Tower on campus. Here's a Wikipedi… | Flickr)</p>

<p>Olin health center</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/eridony/2382465151/[/url]”>http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/eridony/2382465151/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Kedzie S and North</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/eridony/2383217440/in/photostream/[/url]”>http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/eridony/2383217440/in/photostream/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Computer Center</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/eridony/2382383523/in/photostream/[/url]”>http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/eridony/2382383523/in/photostream/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Music School</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/eridony/2379888177/in/photostream/[/url]”>http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/eridony/2379888177/in/photostream/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>IM Circle</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/eridony/2379887991/[/url]”>http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/eridony/2379887991/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>New Parking Garage</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/eridony/2382464995/in/photostream/[/url]”>http://www.■■■■■■■■■■/photos/eridony/2382464995/in/photostream/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>hmmm… I miss East Lansing… </p>

<p>Go State!!! lol</p>