Michigan vs USC

<p>For engineering or business, I wanna hear pros and cons. Please bring it on and take the discussion away. </p>

<p>Which one's better for engineering and business?</p>

<p>Which one's a better school across the board?</p>

<p>Which one's better known nationally and internationally?</p>

<p>Michigan has better Engineering and Business.</p>

<p>IDK across the board.</p>

<p>Michigan has the largest alumni population in the world, and I believe is much more internationally known than USC.</p>

<p>Michigan beats USC by far in business and engineering. I'd assume in social sciences as well. Across the board, Michigan is stronger academically. They're different experiences though. One is public, the other private. You'll probably get more personal attention at USC than you will at UMich.</p>

<p>I don't know what USC strengths are. It's pretty much obvious that USC is better in film. Michigan is more internationally known than USC. Due to college sports, I'm pretty sure most people know about USC within the USA. Notsomuch the academic prowess as the name itself.</p>

<p>Nonetheless, if money wasn't an issue, I'd personally go to USC over Michigan just because of the city of Los Angeles and weather. However, academically Michigan is better.</p>

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<li><p>I believe there is little/no argument that UMich is the stronger business/engineering school. One con of UMich though, is that there is no guarentee that you get into the business school (you can apply a total of twice, once as a pre-admit and once during your freshman year, at the beginning of sophomore year. Most people get in during their freshman year, and the accept rate is about 50%). On the other hand, if you get into USC (you apply directly into Marshall's), your guarenteed to get into USC's business program.</p></li>
<li><p>Across the board, UMich is the better school imho. </p></li>
<li><p>Once again, UMich is known better nationally, and especially internationally.</p></li>
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<p>I applied to both this year, but I've decided I'm going to UMich simply because 1. i'm in-state so it's alot cheaper, and 2. it's stronger academically</p>

<p>USC has MUCH better weather.. and they beat us in the rose bowl (if that matters) :]</p>

<p>Yeah, basically if academics, national, and international recognition are what you're looking for in college, choose Michigan.</p>

<p>USC has decent academics, it's in LA, and has marvelous weather. It's your call.</p>

<p>Have you considered Berkeley or UCLA? Going there would definitly trump experiencing a Michigan winter and their academic programs are also stronger than ours (Michigan).</p>

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<li><p>UMich has top a 5 (#1 from Wall Street Journal) business and a top 10 engineering program. USC isnt really famous for either.</p></li>
<li><p>Michigan has something like 5 majors that are ranked lower than 10th in the nation. The sports teams are about the same, historically, Michigan is better, recently, it has been more USC. USC does have very good art programs though.</p></li>
<li><p>If you are looking to stay on the west coast after college, I would say it doens't matter where you go. If you are looking to go anywhere else in the world to work, Michigan for sure.</p></li>
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<p>Other factors would be the heat and hustleandbustle of LA vs the cold and intimate college town feeling of Ann Arbor.</p>

<p>Azurek, I am not sure I agree with your statement above:</p>

<p>"Have you considered Berkeley or UCLA? Going there would definitly trump experiencing a Michigan winter and their academic programs are also stronger than ours (Michigan)."</p>

<p>UCLA is slightly weaker than Michigan academically and Cal is slightly better. All three are roughly equal overall. I would rank Cal anywhere between #6 and #10 in the nation, Michigan between #9 and #17 and UCLA between #20 and #25. Like I said, they are all roughly the same in terms of academic excellence. As far as international reputations go, Cal > Michigan > UCLA. All three have excellent reputations international, but Cal is up there with Yale and Princeton.</p>

<p>Bearcats:
ENGINEERING: According to the USNWR undergraduate rankings, Michigan #6, USC #25. I'd say that Michigan has the edge in Engineering.</p>

<p>BUSINESS: According to the USNWR undergraduate rankings, Michigan #3, USC #9. According to Business Week undergraduate rankings, Michigan #6, USC #21. Again, I'd say Michigan has the edge in Business. However, Marshall has a strong reputation in California and a very loyal and succesful alumni based. If you wish to work in the East Coast, Midwest or Internationally, I'd say Michigan/Ross makes better sense. But if you wish to live in California, Marshall is just as good as Ross.</p>

<p>OVERALL ACADEMICS: Generally speaking, Michigan is considered one of the very best universities by the majority of academe. USC is also respected, but not quite as much. The USNWR peer assessment score, which measures the average rating of a university's undergraduate education as it is seen by peer institutions' presidents, deans of admissions and provosts, for Michigan is an impressive 4.5/5.0 (similar to Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Northwestern and Penn) and for USC is significantly lower at 3.9/5.0. </p>

<p>INTERNATIONAL REPUTATION: Both have an good international reputation, but again, all indications show that Michigan has a significantly stronger international reputation. I personally don't believe in "global rankings" because they are generally based on a university's impact on the world rather than a university's undergraduate excellence, but they do measure, to an extent, a university's international reputation. According to the three main "global rankings", SJTU, Times and Newsweek, Michigan is ranked significantly higher than USC:</p>

<p>According to the Times (British publication), Michigan is #29 in the World, #14 in the US. USC did not make the top 70 in the world or the top 30 in the US.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.paked.net/higher_education/rankings/times_rankings.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.paked.net/higher_education/rankings/times_rankings.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>According to the Shanghai Jiao Tong University ranking, Michigan is ranked #21 in the World (#18 in the US) and USC is ranked #50 in the world (#39 in the US.</p>

<p><a href="http://ed.sjtu.edu.cn/rank/2005/ARWU2005_Top100.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://ed.sjtu.edu.cn/rank/2005/ARWU2005_Top100.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Finally, according to Newsweek's top 100 Global Universities, Michigan is #11 in the World (#9 among US universities) and USC is #54 in the World (#31 among US universities).</p>

<p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14321230/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14321230/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Yeah, your right about our slight academic advantage over UCLA. Still, when you take into account the weather, that academic edge loses some of its significance.</p>

<p>USC is in LA, so business majors can benefit from that. Plus, Michigan business school is extremely difficult to get in compared to Marshall/</p>

<p>go to Michigan …wow I was such an idiot</p>

<p>bearcats, if you don’t mind me asking, where did you end up going?</p>

<p>bearcats ended up going here.</p>

<p>BC, you weren’t an idiot for asking the question. How the hell else does an applicant find out nuance?</p>

<p>I think he means he was an idiot for going. bearcats is not happy right now.</p>