Interesting, I didn’t know that. Still, worth checking into the transfer rules for the specific Cal State you want to transfer into.
[/QUOTE] http://arweb.sdsu.edu/es/admissions/transfers/gpa.html suggests that the accounting major transfer GPA threshold was 2.90. Could it be that the student was missing a key course requirement for transfer admission?
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I think the admissions adviser would have been aware of what was required to transfer. He was shocked that this student was denied and said that the reason was the community college wasn’t in the ELC area for San Diego State.
@knowledgegood , I attended CC and transferred to a Cal State back in the day. It was a great system for me. My parents both grduated from USC and my teenage self said “ugh, why would I want to go to the college YOU went to?” Haha! My friends were going to the local CC. I was very surprised to come to the east coast, decades later, and realize that people turn their nose up at CC.
I see no shame whatsoever in saving tens of thousands of dollars by starting at community college. More families are doing this, and I can’t see how colleges will sustain the continuous increase in fees. It’s definitely too expensive.
@ucbalumnus --as you might know, that’s been my mantra around here for the past ten years or more. Oh, the poor doughnut hole families, so much more oppressed than the poor.
So I will repeat one more time: NOTHING ABOUT BEING LOW INCOME IS EASIER THAN NOT BEING SO. EVEN PAYING FOR COLLEGE. IT’S JUST NOT.
@garland
You and ucbalumnus are out of touch if you don’t realize that college costs are out of control and difficult for middle and upper middle class families to afford. Why is it not ok for middle and upper middle class families to be able to afford college without giving up retirement and mortgaging their house? The wealthy can afford college without a problem and the poor get it for free or very cheap by comparison.
@ucbalumnus
“Of course, it is easy for an upper middle class family to join the ranks of the poor by quitting their jobs in favor of low paying ones and giving away most or all of their money and other valuable assets to their favorite charities. Then they can get all of the financial aid that they envy the poor getting, and not have to pay as much income tax that they tend to complain about.”
This condescending sarcasm indicates some disdain on your part for those that work hard, earn a decent but not enormous income, but then find it hard to swallow that all the money they have saved by working hard should be handed over to ridiculously overpriced universities. And this is expected by people like you who have something against those that want a bit more financially-level playing field for themselves. We’re talking about people here who are not “plutocrat wealthy.” We didn’t “win the lottery of life” by working hard, getting good jobs, earning good money, and saving for college. And the government didn’t give us these jobs- we earned them. Middle class and upper middle class parents shouldn’t have to go to work every day for many years to save a large part of their income and take out loans to be able to simply afford college for our children when others can save little or nothing and get it cheap with FA and a resulting much lower sticker price. I believe it does bother many on this forum that their is a different price for college for different people. That doesn’t happen in any other line of goods or services in life. And your indifference to and condescension towards those in the middle and upper middle classes that are affected by this financial strain says a lot about the kind of person you are.
While the number of students in 2-year colleges is increasing, the increase is primarily due to more students attending college as a whole, rather than 4-year college affordability issues. For example, the percent of college students in 2-year colleges in different years is below, as reported by IPEDS… It has been decreasing for many years.
Percent of College Students Attending Community Colleges
2000 – 45%
2005 – 43%
2010 – 42%
2015 – 38%
Our D went to our local CC right after JR year of HS. After 3 semesters there, she started the private U that she wanted, where her brother had been since he was a freshman. It saved us a lot of $$$ and worked well for her, preparing her for the courses in her major and upper division courses nicely. It was very low cost for tuition–I believe books may have cost more than the tuition. The campus had free parking, small classes, great food, and was very convenient to our home (just a few miles away). This was back in 2007-2008!
Where are all these poor people going to college for free? Most colleges don’t meet need and most kids, particularly low income students, don’t have the stats to get accepted to the few that do.
I’ll agree that community college is relatively inexpensive in our state, but our low income families don’t have a lock on them. Anyone can attend.
@NPKR01:
“I believe it does bother many on this forum that their is a different price for college for different people. That doesn’t happen in any other line of goods or services in life.”
Actually, price discrimination/differential pricing occurs for many products and services. Airplane tickets. Hotels. Senior citizen discounts. College student discounts. Happy hours. Early bird specials. It’s the same concept.
The elite privates are looking to build the class they want with the best overall profile they can get while maximizing income from tuition and alumni donations. Look at it that way. And they seem to be more able to get donors to give when the pitch is for scholarships/fin aid for poor but deserving students rather than if the pitch is for merit/fin aid for the middle/upper-middle-class.
Though granted, there definitely seems to be a regional bias to that attitude. Southerners seem much more open to merit scholarships while to some Northeasterners, if a school gives merit money/discounts, that actually devalues the school in their eyes.
@PurpleTitan
“Actually, price discrimination/differential pricing occurs for many products and services. Airplane tickets. Hotels. Senior citizen discounts. College student discounts. Happy hours. Early bird specials. It’s the same concept.”
Your examples of “price discrimination” are not valid and only serve to reinforce what I said- their is no other area of goods or services outside of college tuition where the price for these goods or services is adjusted according to your income.
Airplane tickets- nope. Higher income flyers aren’t forced to pay more. All of us can obtain similar priced tickets if we are willing to follow the same selection criteria. Not based on income. Airlines don’t check our income and assets before determining our price for the ticket.
Hotels-same as above.
College student discounts?
Happy hours? Really? If I attend happy hour I am not asked to show my tax returns to determine my drink price. It’s the same for all.
Anyone, regardless of income, can get early bird specials if they are an “early bird.”
Senior citizen discounts apply to ALL senior citizens. They are not based on income. Early bird special at Denny’s? Yup, applies to all. They don’t check your income tax returns.
Sticker price does not change based on income for any of your examples.
My position stands correct. Only in area of college tuition is sticker price adjusted and determined based on one’s income.
“Note that colleges ask only if you are looking for discounts (fin aid).” @PurpleTitan , you know pretty well that MSRP price is intentionally inflated to make room for social engineering.
which is, I’m sorry, ridiculous. The very poor are much less likely to be able to afford private colleges. At any level. Even at Harvard, the best FA in the country, they are a tiny minority, and everything they do is going to entail costs that a middle class kid isn’t even thinking about. And of course a truly middle class student would get a ton of FA from Harvard as well. I don’t think I’m the one who’s out of touch with reality.
No, not only college tuition. It’s not unusual for legal services and mental health services to offer sliding scales based on income. There are also restaurants who offer meals on a pay-what-you-can basis. Certain Panera locations do this, and they’re not the only ones.
I am a fan of financial aid and not a fan of tuition discounting. The later is a tad closer to social engineering. Inflating prices and then discounting to a set point also doesn’t hold up well over time as a business model.