Middle class income, but high expenses.

Which UW (Washington, Wisconsin, Wyoming)? Have your parents told you that it is affordable?

Here are some merit scholarship shopping lists:
http://automaticfulltuition.yolasite.com/
http://competitivefulltuition.yolasite.com/
http://nmfscholarships.yolasite.com/ (if you have National Merit)

I’d have to imagine the W is Washington. Not many places in Wisconsin or Wyoming where $200k would be considered middle class. Plenty of wealthy people in those two states, but not considered high cost of living areas.

What was your PSAT? Are you a likely NMF?

Is that your SAT from one sitting? What is your M+CR?

PLEASE ask your parents how much they’ll spend each year on college. You don’t yet know if they’ll pay for UW…which could be $30k per year (don’t know which UW this is).

If you’re in Wash, are you doing Running Start?

My concern is that your parents can’t spend a lot on college because the Grands don’t have health insurance, and they are paying for any/all of their medical needs.

OP you have great stats, and you sound like a serious students. Congrats for putting yourself in a position to be a contender for merit money – and congrats for taking it on yourself to do the research you need before applications time.

As others have pointed out, need-based aid will probably not be the best route for you. There are posters on this website with lots of experience. If you share more of your goals and your background, you will get lots of help.

– What is your geographical range? How far away would / could you travel? Do your parents set parameters?
– What is your intended area of study? Career goals?
– How do you feel about honors programs – huge versus medium sized universities – urban vs rural?

Thanks @shoot4moon for the positive and helpful response! Yes, my “UW” is indeed Washigton, and it’s a great school. I wouldn’t be living on campus, and my parents have told me they can cover it with ease. They obviously have some money saved up, and when I said that they haven’t really saved much I meant for an out of state school that would charge more than double UW. Anyways, I hope to go into the computer science, engineering field (which is top notch at UW!), but I have always been interested in going to schools that aren’t in the heart of a busy city, which UW is. Cornell is a dream school, and if I knew that we could pay for it, I would try to ED there.

Be aware that frosh direct admission to CS at Washington should be considered a reach; most prospective CS majors get in as undeclared or pre-something and need to compete with high college GPA to get into the major. Engineering majors are also quite competitive to get into.
https://www.engr.washington.edu/current/admissions/admitstats

^ With a 3.9 UW GPA and a 2380 SAT, I like OP’s chances.

What about going to UW for undergrad, and somewhere else for grad school?

You’re lucky in that your state flagship is very strong in the subjects you’re interested in. In addition, you’re both smart and hard-working, so that your profile makes your admission - even to such a competitive major- a pretty safe bet, unless you screw up the essay and your guidance counselor has reasons to want to shoot down your application. Apply to the Honors College also. :slight_smile:
Hopefully you’ll get sufficient scholarships to live on campus so that you do feel that you’re having a different experience.
Your stats should qualify you for NMF scholarships but it’ll be hard to beat UWash for CS. :slight_smile:
Finally, you CAN apply ED to Cornell: if the financial aid offer isn’t sufficient, that’s the ONE reason you’re allowed to back out from the ED commitment (perhaps after asking for a financial reassessment.)

@UWfromCA I know a number of students with similar stats who were not direct admits to cs… and ended up not being able to declare cs later on. My standard advice is to avoid UW if not admitted into cs directly – and being directly admitted has become insanely hard in the last two years. Top stats are no longer enough.

I can confirm what @CourtneyThurston just posted. My DD’s friends in both CS and Engineering at UW were not direct admits and did not get get into either program this year since you need a very high college gpa for admission to those programs. Since they have two years into college at UW (and loans but that is another story) they are now physics majors at UW which is really not what they wanted to study in the first place.

@Brownboy1738 are you Hispanic?

As others have posted, with your stats you could get good merit money at some colleges. Find out exactly what your parents are willing to pay. Also if you will have siblings in college at the same time you will be attending then that might factor into some possible financial aid (but not enough to cover the full cost of attendance). Look at colleges that are part of the Western Undergraduate Exchange. http://wue.wiche.edu/search_results.jsp?searchType=all For example, New Mexico Tech with the WUE discount or other scholarship for OOS is very affordable and less that the in-state tuition at UW. http://www.nmt.edu/scholarships-financial-aid/50-financial-aid/financial-aid/183-scholarships-a-tuition-reduction-programs-for-non-residents The National Science Foundation found New Mexico Tech to be on the list of 50 colleges that produce the most science and engineering Ph,Ds. http://www.thecollegesolution.com/50-schools-that-produce-the-most-science-and-engineering-phds/ I have a student at North Dakota studying engineering and he really loves it there.

Alabama is very good for merit. My own DS went to Ohio State and with his merit awards it amounted to a full-ride. With the National Buckeye Scholarship or the Morrill you may get enough to make OSU affordable to you. What about Oregon State? They have a great college of computing and engineering funded by the alumni who founded Nvidia. http://blogs.oregonstate.edu/eecsnews/2016/04/18/nvidia-co-founder-receives-alumni-award/ There is an Evergreen State Scholarship at Oregon State that automatically awards you a scholarship of $8K a year and can be stacked with other awards. http://oregonstate.edu/admissions/static/washington/#scholarship My DD was accepted to Oregon State’s Honors College and received an additional award from them. My point is that they may be affordable colleges out there for you that have a higher rate of you being accepted as a CS major. You just have to put in the research to find them.

Your dilemma is typical for families at your income level so focus on colleges that will award you enough merit to make them affordable to you and make sure to apply early action to those colleges since scholarship deadlines are earlier than the normal application deadlines or awards are limited until funds run out.

@CourtneyThurston Your “standard advice”? Aren’t you 18 or 19 years old?

OP is instate. Direct admission is almost exclusively reserved for instate students and has always been “insanely hard.” I would be surprised if more than ten OOS students were offered it during the last two years. Were the “number of students [you know]” with similar 3.9 GPAs and 2380 SATs instate or OOS? Bear in mind, out of the almost 1.7 million SAT test-takers annually, only about 1,150 score 2380 or higher. A student with “similar stats” (who probably would be somewhere in the top 0.5% to 1% of the entering class) should not have much difficulty getting into the CS major through regular admission, as long as he or she continues to be a serious student in college.

Perhaps the advice for a student with “similar stats” who applies but is not admitted to Washington’s CS major directly should be to accept your admission offer from Stanford, MIT or Carnegie Mellon (or if the cost is less and cost is a factor for you, your admission offer from your instate public university, especially if it is UCB, UIUC, Washington, Georgia Tech, Texas, Wisconsin, Michigan, UCLA, UCSD, Maryland, Purdue, etc.).

I was very successful in getting cs related scholarships and internships; I consult for families interested in either piece. So, yes, my standard advice. I’ve worked with many students interested in UW. And high stats alone no longer cut it for direct admission into cs at UW.

No longer? Did they ever? Have you been looking at the issue for more than one or two years?

In any case, OP, admission to CS at UW (whether direct or regular) should not be a problem for a student of your caliber. Good luck!

It has gotten harder over the years, yes. Please do not throw blanket statements out in this thread; OP should try, of course, but also needs to recognize that UW is now a tippy top tier school for cs.

No one can say direct admission “should not be a problem” – not for cs at UW.

I did not say that. Specifically addressing the OP with the 3.9 GPA and 2380 SAT, I said, “Admission to CS at UW (whether direct or regular) should not be a problem for a student of your caliber.”

It is good to know that “UW is now a tippy top tier school for cs” (as if it has not been one for decades).

http://www.stat.tamu.edu/~jnewton/nrc_rankings/nrc41.html#area29

This advice seems equally unrealistic:

Lots of students with perfect stats are denied admissions to Stanford, MIT and CS at Carnegie Mellon.

Good luck to the OP. But many students who are not directly admitted – even the strongest of high school students – find that they are not able to declare cs. I know many exceedingly talented and hardworking former vals, etc, who are now majoring in something else at UW, because they were not directly admitted and their petition to declare cs later was denied despite having a fairly high GPA. As @itsv correctly mentions, a VERY high GPA is needed to declare cs if you are not a direct admit.

It can be very hard even for the best of students.

^ And all of those “many exceedingly talented and hardworking former vals, etc. [you know]” can fit on the head of a pin.

@LucieTheLakie I’ll amend my advice to: “Perhaps the advice for a student with ‘similar stats’ who applies but is not admitted to Washington’s CS major directly should be to accept your admission offer from Stanford, MIT, Carnegie Mellon, etc. (or if the cost is less and cost is a factor for you, your admission offer from your instate public university, especially if it is UCB, UIUC, Washington, Georgia Tech, Texas, Wisconsin, Michigan, UCLA, UCSD, Maryland, Purdue, etc.).”