Midwestern Visit report: Earlham, Beloit, Knox

<p>We're back from our midwest college trip --- D. found the "college of her dreams" and another one that is a great back up, from among Earlham, Knox, Beloit and Lake Forest. I'll be posting a full report in the next half hour or so but here is a capsule summary of our experiences:</p>

<p>Friendliest student body: Earlham
Most beautiful library: Knox
Most beautiful town: Lake Forest
Most amazing interactions with teachers: Beloit</p>

<p>I have to run and pick up my son right now and want to read all of the admissions news when I get back but as soon as that is done, I'll provide details on our trip here.</p>

<p>Glad you had a good visit to the midwest. I will check back on details.</p>

<p>Welcome back. <em>hums Kotter theme song</em> These are colleges I don't know much about, and I'm looking forward to more postings from you.</p>

<p>Looking forward to your report. Another welcome back.</p>

<p>Welcome back! I'm dying to hear about your report because S is interested in Earlham and possibly Beloit.</p>

<p>I was wondering how your trip was going. Looking forward to reading the reports.</p>

<p>Ooh - can't wait to hear about your trip. Glad you're back safe.</p>

<p>Yes, a nice trip report from carolyn! ::gets into comfy clothes and puts a pot of tea on:: I am all set!</p>

<p>Oh,drats. This is one of those teaser things like on TV. Aaaarrrggghhh.</p>

<p>Let's start betting on which college got "College of her Dreams". I'm going Beloit (with a possibility of Knox).</p>

<p>Please hurry, Carolyn!!! My vote for the order of trip reports is Earlham-Knox-Beloit-Wake Forest!</p>

<p>Which is the backup and which is the colleges of her dreams? Any guesses?</p>

<p>EARLHAM</p>

<p>As soon as we got off the plane in Dayton, we saw them. Groups of college age kids, some wearing Earlham sweatshirts. They were returning from spring break and greeting each other with lots of enthusiasm and hugs. Lots of conversations about who was riding with who back to campus and who was going to "stop by" whose dorm room that night when they were "home" (and they actually were saying "back home" not "back on campus")</p>

<p>More importantly, they belied the stereotype I had in my mind about what "liberal" Earlham students would look like - for the most part, they didn't look like unwashed hippies or wild goths, they looked like my daughter: lots of jeans, sweaters, a few unusual clothing combinations and hair styles, in other words, quirky but not as out there as the students at Lewis & Clark had been when we visited. In fact, I couldn't help thinking that they looked an awful lot like I had when I was a college student back in the mid-1970's.</p>

<p>While waiting for our luggage, D. struck up a conversation with several of the EArlham kids - they immediately started telling her how much they liked Earlham and giving her their dorm room numbers so that she could stop by to visit while she was on campus. D. got into the rental car and insisted that we drive immediately to the campus before checking into our hotel. It was about a 35 minute drive to campus from the Dayton airport.</p>

<p>The campus is very nice - 800 acres in total. The front 200 acres are devoted to dorms and academic buildings while the 600 "back acres" are woods and open fields. Most of the buildings on campus are centered around "the heart," a large open grassy circular area with paths criss-crossing it. Even though it was a chilly afternoon, and almost dark, there were kids sitting out in the heart, talking and playing frisbee. </p>

<p>The buildings on campus are all red brick and most are in the same, simple style. As I said, when you stand at the center of the heart you can see most of the main buildings on campus and there is a definite sense of cohesion that we have found on only a few other campuses. Perhaps because of its Quaker affiliation, the buildings aren't particularly "Fancy" or impressive, but they do feel very homey and comfortable. The front of the campus edges a main road but the buildings are set pretty far back from it. The western edge of the campus sits next to a large cemetary with lots of trees. The eastern edge sits next to a street of older homes, many of which are owned by the college. And, as I said, the back of the campus is fields and woods. So, it feels rather bucolic and set apart. One of the things that D. noticed right away was that the majority of cars in the parking lot did not have Indiana license plates - we saw plates, and later met students, from every state in the union, including Alaska, California, Vermont, Florida, etc. This was very exciting to D.</p>

<p>We spent about an hour walking around campus and actually crossed paths with two students that daughter had met briefly in the airport. They took us to see one of their dorm rooms and told us a bit more about why they liked Earlham. One admitted that being such a small school (just over 1100 students and edging towards 1200 over the next few years) had its advantages and disadvantages --- but the advantages of knowing everyone and feeling like you were living with friends outweighed the disadvantages of knowing everyone and feeling like you sometimes didn't have much privacy. D. and I were both impressed when we asked if they'd studied abroad (one of Earlham's big draws for my daughter is their great school-run study abroad programs) and the young man we were talking to said that he'd had every intention of going abroad when he arrived as a freshman but that he hadn't done so because he couldn't stand the thought of being away from campus for an entire semester. They both said that social life on campus isn't the typical "wild college scene" - although Earlham is technically a dry campus, they said there is some drinking, some pot smoking, but both are very low key. There are no frats or sororities on campus. A good time that was mentioned to us by several students was hiking into the back woods with friends for a night time bon fire in the woods.</p>

<p>The next morning, admissions had a full schedule planned. We did a tour and saw another dorm. One thing that D. particularly liked is that most of the dorms have full kitchens on each floor. Our tour guide told us that the kitchens become kind of the center of social life each evening with people meeting there to talk, study, and, of course, cook and eat. The dorm rooms we saw in two different dorms were of very good size and the dorms seemed well maintained. There is little crime on campus. </p>

<p>D. attended an American history class and came away impressed, although she didn't get a chance to talk to the professor one-on-one afterwards (this became important later when she went to Beloit). She was not particularly impressed with the art facilities, but we had been warned by Mini beforehand that the art program is weak. She did love the library, which had a very homey feel with a nice japanese room in the center. She loved the bean bag chairs and couches scattered here and there. </p>

<p>She voted her interview with the admissions rep the "most unusual" she'd had at any campus --- the rep didn't ask much about her grades or test scores but did ask alot of questions about D. and her art, her favorite teachers, her friends and the community where she grew up. D. was a little concerned because somehow she mentioned her friend who committed suicide last year and they veered off onto a long conversation about how that affected her circle of friends and how they supported each other afterwards. She was nervous for the rest of the trip about bringing that subject up. </p>

<p>Admissions had also scheduled us to meet with one of the members of the equestrian barn coop. She took us out to the barn (absolutely stunning facilities for a school of this size) and introduced us to several members of the coop program. D. was relieved to find out that the people who ride at Earlham are pretty low key, not into the foo-foo aspects of equestrian sports, but more in tune with her own attitude about riding and horses. D. admitted that she will probably sell her horse (first I heard of this!) before going to college and may not get involved with the very time consuming barn co op program, but that she liked that she could still ride from time to time, even take riding lessons, at Earlham.</p>

<p>We ate both lunch AND dinner in the student cafeteria with students and met many more students while walking around. The food in the cafeteria was quite good with lots of variety. D. liked the huge fireplace and open feel of the cafeteria. Students also can have lunch at the vegetarian co op on campus or in the coffee house which has a subway sandwich shop. There is a good supermarket less than ablock from campus, plus a pizza place and a 24 hour diner within walking distance.</p>

<p>After visiting about 15 or so schools across the country in the past year, this is the ONLY school we've ever been to where students kept coming up and telling us how much they liked Earlham. They were open about the negatives of the school but they were also very enthusiastic about being there at the same time. This was also the only school we have visited where daughter pretty much told me to get lost so that she could go hang out with people she had met on campus without Mom tagging along. </p>

<p>Potential negatives: While not quite the "hippie dippie" school I had been imagining, Earlham IS liberal. Earlham's administration is trying to include conservative viewpoints on campus by inviting conservative speakers and opening a dialogue that includes more conservative students, but not having much success from the sound of things. In fact, the night after we were there, William Kristol, editor of the Weekly Standard, was a guest speaker...and had an ice cream pie thrown in his face while talking. To the credit of the school's administration, the student was suspended and is being considered for permanent expulsion, but still, one wonders if the school's Quaker principles stating "Respect for others" is really being respected in itself. This was not an issue for my daughter, but could be for some who are politically more conservative.</p>

<p>Another negative, in my mind at least, is that the city of Richmond, Indiana is not exactly a thriving metropolis. Although the area immediately around Earlham is quite nice, there are parts of the town that have seen better days. There are plenty of chain stores, a mall, and chain restaurants for kids who want to get off campus (the school runs a shuttle service), but it seems that most kids stay on campus most of the time. I could see how that could get claustrophobic after a while but again, since 75% of students study off campus at some point, this may not be an issue.</p>

<p>For my daughter, this was, in many ways "her dream school" --- before we even hit lunch hour she was talking about applying Early Decision. She just felt at home at Earlham and I definitely could see her there. I would feel very good about her going to Earlham, in spite of the few drawbacks I saw.</p>

<p>BELOIT</p>

<p>My daughter wanted to cut our college tour short after Earlham. She'd found the "perfect school" she told me and there was no need to look further.</p>

<p>Then we went to Beloit. </p>

<p>Beloit's campus is small - only 40 acres. It's located on a hill in an old industrial town (you can see smoke stacks from campus) that has seen much better days. The campus is long and narrow with academic buildings on one end and all dorms across a street on the other end. One side is surrounded by turn of the century houses and a decent neighborhood, the other by a main road overlooking old warehouses and smoke stacks. The academic side of campus has some very nice, older buildings (oldest building on campus was built in 1846). The academic buildings are fairly well maintained but a mix of styles. Cool things on the academic side of campus are a small but wonderful anthropology museum from the college's anthropology collection, indian burial mounds, and the Oscar Mayer (yep, the baloney man) science center.</p>

<p>The dorm side seemed rather closed in - lots of low slung buildings clustered around a central area with the dining hall at one end. The inside of the dorms also felt closed in - long hallways with no real central congregating area. Underground tunnels connect several of the dorms to the dining hall. </p>

<p>Socially, it seemed there were lots of varied activities going on on campus - lots of fliers for bands, parties, and similiar events. </p>

<p>Daughter was not overly thrilled with the campus but admissions had scheduled her for a full day of classes and meetings with professors.
By the end of the day, she was torn between Earlham and Beloit because of these interactions. Her first class was a modern american history class that included a guest speaker from Viet Nam talking about his experiences during the war. After the class, she talked briefly with the teacher and came away impressed with what he had to say about the opportunities in the history department for independent research.</p>

<p>Next, she met with the admissions counselor who knew of her high school (apparently a few students from there have gone to or applied to Beloit in the past) and was very enthusiastic when she showed him her transcript. He said she would be eligible for consideration for at least two merit scholarships and that next year they are beginning an art scholarship that doesn't require you to major in art. They also had a discussion about Beloit's creative writing program - they have 4 literary journals on campus, sponsor a visiting writer each semester (William Least Hurt this semester). My daughter had only mentioned wanting to take creative writing classes to me a few times but apparenty this is now something she is VERY interested in doing (amazing the things you find out on this college trips!). </p>

<p>After meeting with the admissions rep, the fun began. The admissions secretary told D. that she had scheduled her for a "10 minute" meeting with the chair of the history department but she warned D. that he was "Very busy with student conferences and may not have time to talk to you that long." </p>

<p>D. sat down with this man and they ended up talking for about an hour about the philosophy of history (apparently D. and him had similiar views on this), research opportunities, her areas of interest, papers she had written, etc. D. said she got up to leave after ten minutes and he said, "oh no, sit down, I'm enjoying our talk!" Meanwhile, nervous Mom was waiting down the hall to help D. find her next appointment. I needn't have worried - after the hour, the Professor personally escorted her across campus to her next class. </p>

<p>The next class was a drawing class - D. loved it. The art offerings at her high school have been limited and she has supplemented the classes with courses at our city art museum so it was a treat for her to be in a "real" art class. About halfway through the class, the professor gave her a critique on her drawing and then told the class to keep working. He then took D. on a 40 minute (!) tour of the two art buildings on campus, including a student art show. She was thrilled with the facilities and loved what the teacher had to say about the art program. </p>

<p>When we met back at admissions, she was very perturbed. She adored the students and atmosphere at Earlham but hadn't had much chance to connect with the professors there. She was not quite as thrilled about the students at Beloit (more about this in a moment) but adored the teachers she'd interacted with and could see that Beloit offered some opportunities in areas of that Earlham didn't.</p>

<p>We did walk around a bit and tried to talk with students. We didn't get the same warm and fuzzy feeling from Beloit students. There seemed to be more of a mix of student types at Beloit, including some more "out there" students but they were generally not as open to talking to a prospective student as the students at Earlham. D. said she thought she could fit in fine there --- there were plenty of quirky students --- but would really feel more at home at Earlham in many ways. She also much preferred Earlham's campus and setting.</p>

<p>So, the bottomline is that D. is struggling mightily with the Earlham vs. Beloit choice. She feels she could be happy at either school but Earlham just feels right in a way that Beloit doesn't. Right now, she says Beloit would be a close second to Earlham.</p>

<p>Personally, I think that Earlham had more of an "east coast" kind of feel to it --- the kids seemed more diversified (one of the most diverse small schools racially and geographically that we have visited) and more close knit. Beloit, on the other hand, had a more midwestern feel - hard to describe, but definitely a slightly different feel. Earlham students seemed happy but slightly more intellectual and interested in politics whereas Beloit students seemed happy but a little less serious and intellectual. I do think either school would be a good fit for my daughter. Her school gives seniors a week off in the fall for college visits so right now she is talking about going back for a second visit to each school with overnights. </p>

<p>(By the way, she still has Lewis & Clark and Goucher on her list but they are both below Beloit and Earlham at the moment in terms of her preferences. Stand by for further changes which I fully expect!)</p>

<p>KNOX COLLEGE</p>

<p>Knox just didn't grab my daughter. She liked some of what she saw but didn't feel the same strong pull that she did at Earlham, Beloit, Goucher, or Lewis & Clark.</p>

<p>Still, I think Knox is a great little school. The campus is in Galesburg, Illinois. There isn't much around Galesburg --- closest airport is either in the Quad cities or Peoria, both about 40 minutes through corn fields.
The town of Galesburg itself is cute - former residents have included Ronald Reagan and Carl Sandburg - with a nice downtown area a short walk from campus and a larger mall and chain restaurants a little farther out. Galesburg feels safe and homey. It also seems to be a railroad center, so there were lots of (loud and long) freight trains going through town and right along the edge of campus.</p>

<p>The Knox campus is spread out on about 60 acres --- very flat with a large center area in between the main academic buildings and the dorms. One of the neat things on the Knox campus is Old Main, the site of a presidential debate between Lincoln and Douglas. The building is beautiful with lots of wood pannelled rooms, leaded class windows, and even a chair that Lincoln sat in during the debates. Old main has several classrooms still in use.</p>

<p>The Knox library was amazingly beautiful - perhaps the prettiest I've seen. It is also in an historic building and decorated with antiques and "regular" furniture as my daughter calls it. Leaded glass doors, fireplaces, loads of nooks and crannies. I would love to study in a library like that!</p>

<p>There are several other historic buildings on campus --- including one that is currently not in use (and has not been for some time). The dorms are suite style - 4 to 6 double and single rooms open into a large common area with shared bathroom. While the suites are roomy, both daughter and I felt the dorms had seen better days and were not particularly welcoming (walls are cinder block, for instance, furniture was typical dorm furniture). </p>

<p>The admissions staff was very welcoming and helpful. Daughter sat in on a histology class and reported that the teacher was terrific - very enthusiastic and interesting. Knox does have a very strong creative writing program and the arts in general seemed quite good. My daughter liked what she heard about the history program from the teacher after class.</p>

<p>The students seemed pretty middle of the road - didn't see many quirky students, but they all seemed pretty down to earth. About 50% of students are from Illinois. Greeks are part of campus life - about 30% of students join. The two students we talked to said that the frats throw the best parties on campus and they are mostly open to all students. </p>

<p>All in all, Knox seems like a good small school for someone looking for a middle of the road-conservative student. Just not a fit for my daughter.</p>

<p>thanks Carolyn for the reports. Knox was initially on my D's list but we never visited as she had crossed it off. I appreciated hearing your description!</p>

<p>LAKE FOREST COLLEGE</p>

<p>By the time we were on our way to Lake Forest, daughter was exhausted. Therefore, I called the night before and cancelled out tour and admissions appointment and we only just walked around the campus. I know that Curmudgeon recently wrote up a full report of his visit to LF so I won't go into much detail here.</p>

<p>D. loved the town of Lake Forest itself - even though it is not geared towards students, we did see lots of them in stores and restaurants. It is a short walk from campus. There is a train station right in town that takes you into Chicago in about 40 minutes. D. and I drove around gawking at the houses in Lake Forest - they are simply beautiful!!! Wow!</p>

<p>The campus itself is lovely, with some large and impressive historic buildings, lots of trees and greenery. Lake Michigan is several blocks away and there is a beach there where we saw other LF students sitting. Academically, I believe LF is a school on the rise. They are trying very hard to increase their geographic diversity and their admitted student stats are rising as well. Still, it is probably a safety school for mid-range students like my daughter, althought that is changing. One nice thing about LF is they have a solid business program - not many small LAC's do. Their history and English programs also looks strong. They emphasize internships for all students which is a good plus in my mind.</p>

<p>The students we saw seemed to be a mix --- mostly clean cut preppie types but enough artsy and alts to keep things interesting. The setting and town is beautiful and I think it would be a great place to spend four years, especially if you wanted access to a large city.</p>

<p>Carolyn, you are the researcher. Is there a school that combines the best of Beloit and Earlham?</p>

<p>At Beloit, the professor left his class for 40 miniutes to talk to your daughter. I can see why that was a plus for your daughter. I'm not sure that was a plus for the actual students at Beloit. Next year, your daughter would be one of the abandoned students, not the new prospective student.</p>

<p>Carolyn,</p>

<p>Been looking forward to your return!!! I feel like I have been to visit these schools myself, your descriptions are so clear and full! Thanks! I think S2 would like either of these places, for the same reason your daughter does. Do you think there is any doubt that the faculty connects less with the kids at Earlham than at Beloit? I would guess that if given more "normal" arrangement (ie. not a visitor) that students do have a lot of prof/student interaction. Think that is likely?</p>

<p>Think we will include Hendrix as well, since we have known three kids well who have been happy there, but Beloit and Earlham are top of the list. Thanks again! Betcha you are looking forward to a nice sleep in your own bed!!</p>

<p>Carolyn,
Thank you so much for those great reports! I continue to think that E and B would be good fits for S. It would be cool if he meets your D at one of those places, and you and I also can finally meet after all of this time on these boards!
I'm also glad to hear of the racial diversity at E.</p>

<p>S visiited Earlham last year. Liked it and was receptive, we are Quakers so he'd heard about if for years and knows lots of people who went there. On his overnight he was disappointed to see that the statistically diverse student body self-segregated in the cafeteria. I know this is not unique to Earlham but he found it more noticeable than at Denison or Grinnell.</p>

<p>SRMom, yes we did see some self-segregation in the cafeteria as well. But, we also saw many mixed tables and mixed groups walking around campus. We also felt that the students of color at Earlham were more visible overall than at other campuses we have visited in the past. At some schools, my daughter has actually wondered out loud where they hide the non-white students. This is an important issue to her as she has a very diverse group of friends in high school so I will be sure to have her talk to different people when she visits her top choices again.</p>