<p>Unfortunately on monday I'm meeting with a couple of the school administrators about a cheating case and they're deciding on my punishment. Ironically I was on the giving end instead of the receiving end which my GC said is the only good news out of this case. The bad news is that I'm still most likely to receive a suspension. I'm a straight A student, have an impeccable record, no detentions this year, AP's, great SAT's and unfortunately the way everyone's making this sound it looks like this might screw me over. Basically what happened was that I unintentionally helped my friend on a paper in my expertise, and I just crossed the line while I was doing that. While there is a chance i may walk away with just a detention due to my clean record and good intentions, I still want to prepare now as a junior for the ramifications that may come out of this. I've looked around the website and saw that clearly cheating is the worst thing that one can be suspended for, but the fact that I was unintentionally on the giving side and not benefiting from this at all, does that in anyway help me? My GC who is also the head of school said that if he sees that I learn from this he will write about that on my recommendation to try to shed some positive light on the situation. I was just wondering for some of the top colleges, how is this going to affect me?</p>
<p>Well, its the same thing as a student who suffered like a close death in the family and their grades dropped. Colleges will see the 4.0 student and then the 3.6 student who had a 4.0 every semester except the one(when the close death occurred). Ultimately, it dosen’t come down to whats fair but rather who the colleges want? Which applicant would they rather have? </p>
<p>So if you were suspended, then your application just has to be that much better than others. Your application has to be so good that even with the suspension, adcoms will still see you as a better applicant.</p>
<p>Or ask the school if they could remove the suspension from your record next year before you apply to college. Because you have always been a good student, if you prove to them by next year that you won’t get in any more trouble, they might consider it. I know many schools where that is true. In fact, at my school, you don’t even ask. They just either don’t discipline the top kids or automatically erase their record come application time.</p>
<p>I might ask to have it removed next year hopefully, I don’t mind getting suspended, it’s the effects on college that are scaring me</p>
<p>You are making the “cheating” thing sound like it was just an accident of sorts with good intentions. If it really is as innocent as you say, explain it as best you can as to the administrators and make sure to tell them that it will never happen again. They might let you off in this case because, if what you is true, then the whole thing really wasn’t premeditated or malicious.</p>
<p>I’ve talked to some of them already drac, and they realize that i had good intentions out of this and I was very honest about it as well when I spoke to them, it’s just that this still counts as “facilitation of academic dishonesty”, since technically I did cross the line this is usually a suspendible offense, I’m just preparing for the worst. I’m not necessarily going into this meeting automatically guilty, I just want to prepare for the worst.</p>
<p>Don’t want to weigh you down with admonitions - you know you did wrong and I’m sure you will never do this again, whatever your intention. But I thought I should add, cheating is terrible, but it is not the worst thing that you can do. Suspensions of longer periods for criminal or near-criminal behavior (bullying, hazing, stealing, underage drinking) happen too and the ramifications are usually much worse. Continue accepting responsibility, take your punishment and strive to never cheat again and you can put this behind you. Good luck.</p>
<p>Even if it gets removed from your file you are still required to disclose it on your app if it resulted in any disciplinary action.</p>
<p>Academic dishonesty is serious and will effect college admission. Involve your parents in how the school handles this.</p>
<p>Does it make a difference that I was on the other side of the equation, and if I can make it seem like i learned from this and all of my recommendations elude to this, is it going to be one of those “tie-break” scenarios or am I still going to be perceived as a high-risk candidate?</p>
<p>Don’t stress about this, bro. One of my friends made fake hall passes for his friends and himself and he got caught (someone ratted him out) and he still got accepted into Stanford. </p>
<p>And definitely. Explain it in your app essay. Ironically, if you do have the grades you say you have, then it might even help. It would show colleges you’re not some monotonous study-study-study nerd. And it would make you different from the other applicants with the same grades.</p>
<p>If an application asks you to tell about a time you failed and what you learned from it, you’re all set.</p>
<p>Affect.
. . .wrt to your question “Might receive a 1-2 day Suspension, How will it effect my admission chances?”</p>
<p>Your question should be “how will it AFFECT [not <em>effect</em> ]–my chances”! getting that word right might help too!<br>
best of luck.</p>
<p>. . . and your recommendations shouldn’t “elude” to your mistake. they should “allude” to it.
further . . .I really don’t think ALL of them should allude to it. One perhaps. or maybe it’s enough for you to allude to it, if it must be alluded to.</p>