<p>The sad thing is that events like this will not only hurt her reputation, but MIT's reputation as well.</p>
<p>dude ur kidding me</p>
<p>Holy Frap.</p>
<p>Ms. Jones' intents and strategies were totally at odds; she wanted to reduce stress for students by rewarding strong extracurriculars. But the contradiction is obvious - students will stress over extracurriculars instead of over just say, SATs and grades. I figure the more malleable your 'score' on an admissions criteria, the more stressful the process is, because you're always thinking about how to improve and do more. And even when you fail, you'll be burdened by the fact that you <em>might</em> have gotten, if only you did.... On the other hand, to take a reductio ad absurdum, if you're highschool grades are set in stone from birth, and Harvard picks only those with perfect GPAs, well, you're in or out, and there's nothing you can do, no performances to stress over. There's still envy of course, but that's always there, independent of stress. Everyone's felt that sense of relief when someone else has to make the choice and take responsibility.</p>
<p>To be sure, making an admissions system to reduce stress of applicants is pretty stupid, as compared to say, making one that suits the mission of the university. Besides, if you're goal is to reduce stress among high schoolers, AND you have an admissions process sure to accomplish that, MANY universities have to embrace it, because a student can't bank on getting into that 'unstressful' college.</p>
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<p>Eh, she was a rather naive admissions director, tilting at windmills and all, and MIT was just fine with that. They got folly in spades. She seems to be one of those types wanting to make college a country club. </p>
<p>"MIT tries to admit people who have the ability to succeed socially as well as academically. Achievement at MIT means participation in the community, membership in activities, and the ability to interact positively with one's peers." <a href="http://www-tech.mit.edu/V117/N40/hove.40c.html%5B/url%5D">http://www-tech.mit.edu/V117/N40/hove.40c.html</a> This isn't from Ms. Jones, but it evidences the rather sad predicament of the school. Here I thought MIT was supposed to be the province of nerds, of brilliant productive minds and their efforts, and to hell with all else.</p>
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In fact, more companies than you would expect go so far as to have handwriting experts analyze the handwriting of their potential hires to try to assess their personality traits and mental capabilities.
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<p>FWIW, handwriting analysis, aka graphology, is pseudoscience. From a peer reviewed meta-analysis (combining results from a bunch of studies to get a better estimate): "When the assessees who provide handwriting samples are allowed to write on any subject they choose, both graphologists and untrained nongraphologists can infer some (limited) information about their personalities and job performance from the handwriting samples. But untrained nongraphologists do just as well as graphologists; both show validities in the .18.20 range. When the assessees are required to copy the same material from a book to create their handwriting sample, there is no evidence that graphologists or nongraphologists can infer any valid information about personality traits or job performance from the handwriting samples." This article discusses various predictors of job productivity, like interviews, work sample tests. On the other hand, intelligence or general mental ability (GMA), as measured by IQ tests, is very relevant, i.e. predictive of future productivity, moreso than anything else, with a .51 correlation between productivity and GMA for medium complexity jobs. For more sophisticated jobs, the correlation is higher, and for less those less so, lower. <a href="http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/%7Epsyc231/Readings/schmidt.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.owlnet.rice.edu/~psyc231/Readings/schmidt.htm</a></p>
<p>I have no respect for scum like her, she violated millions of honest people who paid thousands of dollars and worked their butts off for a degree.</p>
<p>so thats why i didn't get into Mit Lol just kidding</p>
<p>ha, john proctors everywhere</p>
<p>we need more holden caulfields: anti-phony</p>
<p>"With colleges demanding kids who play sports, run student government and take the heaviest course load they can, Jones shouted back the opposite: daydream, stay healthy, and don't worry so much about building a resume just to impress an elite college."</p>
<p>Of course she shouts that; she was probably a slacker who didn't take the heaviest course loads or extracurriculars. That's why she had to falsify her credentials. Someone like her having a say on who is admitted to MIT or not contaminates the whole admissions process because she has no idea what a scholar is. Her flawed leadership probably influenced the rejection of many qualified applicants. I hope she gets sued for fraud and has to go to prison or is fined heavily.</p>
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<p>I think she could be sued but I would also think some discussion of pension might be in order???</p>
<p>Many of you may not be familiar with Marilee Jones, who was always an active figure on campus, and truly cared about the well-being of students. Regardless of that one dishonest act she committed 28 years ago, that doesn't negate everything she has done for the admissions community. The alternative would have worse in my opinion. And I believe that the purpose of her advocating telling the truth and nothing but the truth was so that nobody else would make the same pitfall. Imagine living with that sort of guilt for 28 years...all in all, MIT was better with Marilee.</p>
<p>and you have donated funds to MIT? I cannot disagree more. She and her fraud are a total embarassment which have caused harm.</p>
<p>to all of you who are bitter about not making it into MIT...</p>
<p>this is the most awful, hurtful way you could take out your frustrations. </p>
<p>I've known no other admissions staff, admissions director, no less, that has taken SUCH pains to get in touch with its students, make the admissions process navigable, tangible, HUMAN...</p>
<p>What she did 28 years ago has nothing to do with your admissions decision, or the personal love and care she's put into renovating the admissions process. So stop taking your anger out on her three-decades-old misfortune.</p>
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if you don't mind an inquiry......how many do you know? How many admissions offices contacted you out of how many applications you submitted?</p>
<p>I disgree.......her actions 28 years ago have everything to do with the "renovation" as you refer to it.</p>
<p>note: I have not ever applied to MIT.</p>
<p>I have nothing to do with MIT as well, but I find this very disturbing. And she could have admitted at any time to her misrepresentation of her credentials.</p>
<p>furthermore, while she lied 28 years ago initially, she lied again when she got the job of admission director, and that was less than a decade ago.</p>
<p>Absolutely ironic. Perhaps I should have embellished on my application a little (a lot) when I applied.</p>
<p>"if you don't mind an inquiry......how many do you know? How many admissions offices contacted you out of how many applications you submitted?"</p>
<p>that's my point - none of them. No one else bothered to send signed cards or call me or facebook friend me or feel the need to care about me as a PERSON. So yes, I stand by my defense.</p>
<p>awww marilee feels bad.-..now thats just awful...those mean mean men are making her uncomfortable....</p>
<p>note: I applied to MIT, got rejected lol ( but I couldn't careless, I'm going to penn)</p>
<p>She lied every time she cashed a pay check, every time she was introduced in public as "Dr. Jones," and every time her publisher sold a book that touted her bogus credentials, while presiding over an office that rightfully requires absolute honesty from its applicants.</p>