<p>Harvard Pre-med statistics
over 95% who applied to medical school were admitted with ave GPA of 3.3 and it is very easy to get B ro B+ at harvard.</p>
<p>MIT pre-med statistics
70 % admitted with average GPA of 3.77</p>
<p>other Ivy schools have over 90% admit rate to med. school<br>
princeton 93% columbia 91% yale 91% etc...</p>
<p>I think that it might be pertinent to note that MIT uses a 5.0 GPA, whereas I'm pretty sure that Harvard, Princeton, etc. etc. use a 4.0 system, don't they?</p>
<p>Therefore 3.77 at MIT = C+</p>
<p>70% of MIT graduates getting into medical school with a C+ GPA? Pretty good, I think.</p>
<p>correction mok. the med-school placement rate for yale is 94-96%.</p>
<p>No, it's a converted GPA -- 3.77 out of 4.0.</p>
<p>The data mok quotes must be a little out of date -- the most recent data from the careers office has the total MIT acceptance rate (including undergrads, alums, and grad students) at 74%. </p>
<p>More importantly, the acceptance rate for undergraduate applicants is 83.6%, with an average GPA of 3.6/4.0 for accepted students (though the lowest accepted GPA is 2.4!).</p>
<p>This data is available [url=<a href="http://web.mit.edu/career/www/infostats/preprof.html%5Dhere%5B/url">http://web.mit.edu/career/www/infostats/preprof.html]here[/url</a>].</p>
<p>If your first year graduate genetics course at Harvard is at the level of sophomore course at MIT then logic would say that the undergrad genetics course at Harvard would be at a level lower than the MIT sophomore course, no? Am I missing something when you write this and then say you don't know about Harvard undergrad course rigor? It seems you have answered your own question.</p>
<p>My previous post was in response to molliebatmit.</p>
<p>That's what I would assume, but I don't know for sure -- I've only attended the Harvard graduate course, not the undergraduate course.</p>
<p>"I think that it might be pertinent to note that MIT uses a 5.0 GPA, whereas I'm pretty sure that Harvard, Princeton, etc. etc. use a 4.0 system, don't they?</p>
<p>Therefore 3.77 at MIT = C+</p>
<p>70% of MIT graduates getting into medical school with a C+ GPA? Pretty good, I think."</p>
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<p>I think everyone has to convert their GPA to a 4.0 scale, so I assume the 3.77 is out of 4.0. Like most statistics, they don't tell the whole story I'm sure. Probably it's not a symmetric curve around 3.77. I imagine that most of the people getting in are around 3.6-4.0/4.0 but then there are some people with low GPAs that apply for the hell of it that brings the admittance rate down to 70%. From what I understand, at ivies they wouldn't let those people apply. I do know an MIT person who had slightly less than a "B" average in biology that got into a top 5 medical school. (I don't know what her GPA was for sure, but midway through junior year I think it was like 3.8/5.0.) It took her a long time to get into medical school though--she had years of medically related community service after graduation. There was another MIT guy who got into Harvard Med with a 3.8/5.0 GPA, but ironically it was the only med school which took him. I'm sure there MCAT scores were very competitive. </p>
<p>My feeling is that if you get a 4.2-4.3/5.0 GPA, you will probably get in somewhere--especially considering MIT people tend to be able to get outstanding MCAT scores. If not, you can take like a year of post-bacheloriate coursework at an easier place to boost your undergrad GPA slightly.</p>
<p>^The MIT Careers Office used to publish the average GPAs of med school applicants as well as admitted students, and while there was obviously a small amount of selection for higher GPAs and against lower GPAs, the applicant average and admitted average were only about 0.1 point apart -- GPA, then, does not seem to be the factor standing in the way of unsuccessful applicants. (Though I agree that some number of people with low GPAs are applying just to apply.)</p>
<p>Of course, the latest statistics say that 74% of applicants are accepted somewhere, but 83.6% of undergraduate applicants are accepted somewhere. This implies that the alum and graduate student applicants are on average weaker than the undergraduate applicants.</p>