<p>yes staffs and facilities should take the cuts not our kids</p>
<p>Teen Suicide Deaths were the highest in the past, well think about it maybe it went down because you added sports over the years and now you want to take sports away … let our kids get fat and be unhappy. This is a bad way to save money. Our kids might not be happy with them self. Sport students live a balanced life and now you want to take that away … Harvard is not dropping any sports. They know it is best for everyone. Please do something to stop the Cuts
cut your pay, cut hours, cut jobs, not sports. you can run great sports programs on less money too.</p>
<p>[MIT</a> Suicides](<a href=“http://web.mit.edu/~sdavies/www/mit-suicides/]MIT”>http://web.mit.edu/~sdavies/www/mit-suicides/)</p>
<p>[Teen</a> Suicide Statistics Adolescent Teenage Suicide Prevention](<a href=“http://www.familyfirstaid.org/suicide.html]Teen”>Teen Suicide – Troubled Teen Help)</p>
<p>yikes this conversation definitely took a turn for the worse</p>
<p>you should write an editorial for the newspaper, mia.</p>
<p>sorry i just get so mad because we teach our kids to live a balanced life and have a passion for everything you do. MIT students DO . The kids that have a passion for there sport, and can’t play, well what will they do ? How will they balance their life ? Will they transfers ?</p>
<p>They’ll do club sports, like the rest of us… it’s like being bumped from first class to economy, but you’ll still get there.</p>
<p>As a parent of a student considering MIT, I think it’s disturbing to use information related to suicide rate to protest the cut while there is no study to prove that sports contributed to the declining suicide rate at MIT. Many students on the suicide list were PhDs, postdocs, graduate students who did not have much time to play intensive sports. It’s unfortunate that MIT has to cut some sport programs because of financial crisis. MIT does not only cut sports but it also cuts need-based financial aid. Some newly admitted students say that they cannot atttend MIT because of small or no financial aid. Some people say Harvard does not cut sports but forget to mention that it does not cut financial aid either. MIT has priorities to juggle.</p>
<p>MIT did not cut need-based financial aid. Quite the opposite: MIT increased its financial aid for next year, as discussed here: [MIT</a> to increase financial aid to middle-income families - MIT News Office](<a href=“http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2009/tuition-0218.html]MIT”>MIT to increase financial aid to middle-income families | MIT News | Massachusetts Institute of Technology).</p>
<p>As for cutting varsity sports, it’s regrettable, but MIT had far more varsity teams than Harvard to begin with. As Pebbles notes, these will become club sports, and so students will still have the same opportunities to be involved.</p>
<p>Maybe some amount from outside scholarship funds is reduced. I am just guessing. There is a concern here: <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/mit-2013/671832-mit-fin-aid.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/mit-2013/671832-mit-fin-aid.html</a></p>
<p>@coolweather,
MIT has not reduced any scholarship funds, nor has it reduced need-based financial aid. The link you posted simply takes the reader to a CC thread where some admitted students express concern about the amount of financial aid they’ve been offered. But each year, not only at MIT but also at all the other universities, some students express shock that they aren’t offered more. The fact that some students have expressed concern does not constitute evidence that MIT has reduced any of its aid – in fact, the opposite has occurred, because MIT has increased its financial aid budget by just over 10 percent this year, far outpacing the increase in tuition and fees.</p>
<p>Ok, so the sports cuts suck, but they are not exactly the end of the world, which seems to be what some people here are heading towards…let’s all relax a little.</p>
<p>I’m glad to hear that Pistol will continue as a club sport and is finding ways to be self-funded on a sustaining basis.</p>
<p>Mens Ice Hockey was also participating in a club league. Hopefully they can continue as a club sport also; they would not even have to change leagues. I heard there is concern though that MIT might charge them for ice time, which at 2 hours a day, 6 days a week would be very expensive.</p>
<p>So, as awesome as it is that it turns out some of these sports won’t actually have to go away, I’m sort of confused as to how this is actually helping the budget? I guess they can get outside donors and stuff, but…well, I guess I just don’t know what DAPER provides to team sports in general.</p>
<p>Also, it seems like they actually did a pretty good job of trying to keep actual student impact to a minimum…so I’m sort of amazed that they didn’t advertise this point DURING the process, which seems like it would have cut down on quite a bit of drama/panic/anger/etc.</p>
<p>Club sports get very little money from MIT each year, and what they do get is adjusted for involvement, so bigger clubs get slightly more money. </p>
<p>I think the cheerleading squad got something on the order of $800-1000 this year with 15 members. We could have gotten some money to travel, and about $600 to hire an actual coach instead of a gullible grad student. Overall, that’s much, much less than a varsity sport would cost. My gymnastics friend indicated that the gymnastics coach’s salary was in the five-digit range.</p>
<p>calalum: Agreed, that MIT hasnt cut the gross amount of finaid but this kind of top number analysis is not particularly meaningful --“MIT has increased its financial aid budget … far outpacing the increase in tuition and fees.” tuition and fees went up about 4% [so that comes off the top], and some finaid funds were set aside for some in the 75-100K income range, as I remember. In addition there is likely to be a far greater number of students applying for aid [or requiring more aid] both in the class of 2013 and prior classes. So the budget increase you are talking about is not all that meaningful and certainly doesnt fix the problems folks are having.</p>
<p>Alot of what you hear on CC and elsewhere are complaints from those in the 75 -150k category, who are historically unserved or underserved by the MIT finaid program. Their situation is now worse than ever. They have seen their college and retirement savings, home equity, and ability to borrow deteriorate to the point that MIT is no longer possible, even by canabalizing all available sources and incurring mountains of debt.</p>
<p>Hmm, we fall into that 75-150k range and we have been very satisfied by MIT’s aid. Of course, this is our second child going through college so we were realistic about what to expect and what would be expected of us.</p>
<p>Back to the topic – the students on varsity teams seem to have been kept fairly well informed about the process given what my d conveyed to me as it all was happening. (She participates in 2 varsity sports).</p>
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<p>We fit in the upper range of that category and MIT is barely more expensive than the State U for our D. Every year they actually improved the aid with no change in financial condition.</p>
<p>Wow good, we fit in the upper range of that category too, and MIT gave us nothing. Rutgers, my state school, gave me full ride +room/board/spending money. Nothing will stop me from going to MIT though!</p>
<p>To keep golf as a varsity sport they would have to raise a $3 million
read the story and then tell me what you think
endowment.click here
[Golf</a> | Fuzzy math ends MIT golf team](<a href=“http://www.golfweek.com/story/mccabe-042909]Golf”>http://www.golfweek.com/story/mccabe-042909)</p>
<p>click on PODCAST too: Lance Ringler and Asher Wildman discuss MIT losing golf
[Golf</a> | Fuzzy math ends MIT golf team](<a href=“http://www.golfweek.com/story/mccabe-042909]Golf”>http://www.golfweek.com/story/mccabe-042909)</p>
<p>[Golfweek</a> | Videos](<a href=“http://www.golfweektv.com/lances_room.asp]Golfweek”>http://www.golfweektv.com/lances_room.asp)</p>
<p>Fortunately they’re keeping men’s vball…when most colleges announce cuts like this, men’s volleyball is one of the first sports dropped but they have a reasonably successful program at MIT. Now, just to get into the school next year…</p>