MIT Housing for Dummies

<p>This is that thread that I promised in a couple of other threads. It's meant to explain the strange but wonderful system that is MIT housing. If you have questions that aren't answered here, by all means, ask.</p>

<p>There are several steps in housing selection:</p>

<p>1) Read through the provided materials: i3 videos and any other printed or online material that MIT sends you are not a good sole basis for your decision, but they're a good place to start. You can get a vague idea of dorm personalities that way. Also, go online and read up on the FSILGs.</p>

<p>2) CPW (optional but recommended): CPW is a great time to explore housing options! Take advantage of this time to visit lots of living groups in person. This is a stage where you want to be open-minded - you might have gotten vague impressions from the i3 videos or whatever, but in-person visits are much more significant. Talk to actual residents, both to find out their thoughts about their living group and to get a sense of what they are like and whether they are people you'd enjoy living with.</p>

<p>3) Rank temp housing preferences: Based on the info that you've gathered thus far, rank the dorms. MIT will use your choices to determine where you live during Orientation. Choose carefully, because depending on how heavily subscribed various dorms are, being able to switch out is not guaranteed. </p>

<p>WARNING: McCormick and some of the Cultural Houses have binding RBA, which means that if you get assigned to them in the summer, you will NOT be able to switch out. Next House has RBA, but it is (they finally changed it!) not binding, and you can still move.</p>

<p>4) REX (Dorm Rush to students): This is the period of Orientation where you actually choose your dorm. If you want to get the most out of your housing experience, it is very important that you take this seriously and try to find the best place for you! Don't be lazy and complacent! If you love your temp dorm, great, but you still need to make sure that there's not an even better place. I don't care what the latest admin propaganda says, just about any student (students being the people who, unlike most admins, actually know what it's like to live in the housing system) will tell you this. Students have fought for years to ensure that this time will still exist for you as it did for them...don't blow it off.</p>

<p>5) In-House Rush (for most frosh): Many of the dorms have subcultures based around halls (e.g. EC, B-C, Next), floors (e.g. Random, Senior Haus), entries (e.g. MacGregor) or other subsections (New). This is where you get to choose one. You'll still be living in your temp dorm, but by this time you'll have your permanent dorm assignment. All the dorms with In-House Rush (sometimes called Hall Rush, Floor Rush, etc) have it at the same time, and you go to your permanent one for whatever they have. Each dorm that has In-House Rush will have its own procedure. Some number of people from that dorm will spend all night assigning frosh to rooms, and the results are generally posted in a prespecified location in that dorm early the next morning.</p>

<p>6) Move-In: Don't worry if you are moving from, say, Next House to Senior Haus (which is nearly a mile walk). Or if you're moving from the first floor of your temp dorm to the fifth (I did this). A sizable corps of current students will be mobilized, starting early in the morning and going most of the day, to help you move your stuff. Traditionally, fraternity brothers (who like getting the face time with the frosh) run between-dorm moving. They will help you carry your stuff to a shuttle van, load it, drive it to your new home, and unload it for you. Current residents of your new dorm will help you carry your stuff from the unloading point to your new room. Many living groups will have welcome-the-frosh dinners/events/meetings.</p>

<p>7) FSILG Rush (optional, but recommended): A few days after you move in (generally starting the final weekend of Orientation), Rush starts for fraternities, sororities, and ILGs. Each of these FSILG systems has its own rush system. Fraternity Rush is generally a few days long, and rushees can go from house to house (there are a lot of fraternity houses) at will. They have a lot of rules about house behavior to make sure they don't step on each other's toes. Sorority Rush is also a few days long, but highly centralized...you have to sign up for it, and neutral guides will take you in groups from house to house, advise you on your choice, and conduct structured events. ILG Rush tends to be highly informal and highly decentralized. Each house does their own thing without much regard for what the other houses are doing. It tends to be lower-pressure and keeps going in the same low-key, informal way, off and on, for months (ET might be an exception to this - their procedures are sort of ILG/fraternity hybrid from what I understand, and they have a pledge program).</p>

<p>Keep in mind that participating in FSILG Rush is not binding. You can (and probably should) explore this other set of options, without feeling like it will force you to abandon your dorm living group. Even if you are sure you want to stay in a dorm, it will give you a better understanding of cultures around campus.</p>

<p>A couple of tips:</p>

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<li><p>Don't bring your parents! Housing selection activities are geared toward students by themselves! There are numerous CPW and Orientation activities for parents, including dorm tours, and numerous opportunities during CPW and Orientation for parents and students to hang out together that are not during housing selection.</p></li>
<li><p>Relatedly, if you need something from the dorm deskworkers, talk to them yourself! Don't have (or let) your parents be the one to do it. I can think of few better ways to create a bad impression with your new dormmates, and it happens to a bunch of people every year.</p></li>
<li><p>Don't bring a bunch of stuff! I brought two suitcases initially - one of stuff that I would need right off the bat, and one full of camping stuff for my pre-Orientation program, which was a camping trip/geology expedition in Colorado for a week before Orientation. Everything else, my parents shipped to me after I had moved into my permanent room. This made moving much easier. I advise you to do something similar.</p></li>
<li><p>Even if you stay in the same living group, most dorms will not allow you to stay in the same room. This is because they don't want people to refrain from participating in REX or In-House Rush so that they don't have to move. They want you to realize that you will have to move anyway!</p></li>
<li><p>Be wary of stereotypes. Like any other stereotype, they range from completely true to completely false, with most falling in the "overgeneralization based on a grain of truth" category. Things that I have heard from outsiders about my own hall over the years, often from people who didn't know where I lived, include: We're all insane, we're all scary druggies, we're all hackers, we're all goths, we only go outside at night, we're satanists who conduct satanistic rituals, we never wear shoes, we have wild orgies all the time...you get the idea. Go check the place out for yourselves instead of relying on stereotypes!</p></li>
<li><p>The best way to learn about a living group is to talk to the residents.</p></li>
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<p>This is a really great post. Thanks, Jessie!</p>

<p>Which house is famous for hookups? The "hippy houses" EC and Senior House?</p>

<p>Jessiehl :) Thank You!</p>

<p>Where (which part of Campus) did you find yourself spending the most
amount of time during freshman year?</p>

<p>Curious.</p>

<p>:)</p>

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<p>Oh, definitely the east side. I hung out in EC (primarily on my own hall, 5E), Random, and Senior Haus (though actually, I hung out in both of the latter much more later on - I am kind of a shy person by nature and had to find my footing in my own living group socially before I started branching out). I also spent a fair amount of time, especially toward the end of the year, at pika, the ILG.</p>

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<p>My first thought was Senior Haus, but really, you can get hookups in any place that has a significant number of non-sexually-conservative residents.</p>

<p>I don't think "hippie houses" is a good descriptor, actually. There's a tendency among people in places without a lot of real hippies, which I had before I came to MA, to describe all liberal counterculture as "hippie". Both EC and SH are liberal counterculture, but I don't think I'd call either one "hippie" (SH, for instance, is more punk than hippie, IMO). If I had to classify any living group as "hippie", it would be pika, with their communal living, strong environmental consciousness, large numbers of vegetarians and vegans, and self-identification as hippies.</p>

<p>Edited to add: Again, the best way to find out is to see for yourself. Don't put too much stock in stereotypes, even if they come from me or others here. :)</p>

<p>Jessie, are you going to return from the dead and blog this? Because if you're not going to, someone should.</p>

<p>@ Arwen - I know you directed this question at Jessie, but just to throw my own $0.02 in, many people enjoy socializing outside of their living groups. For example, I live in Simmons and am also a fraternity brother. While I spend the majority of my time either at my fraternity or Simmons, I have many friends in other dorms; I've been to East Campus and Senior Haus on more than a few occasions.</p>

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<p>Dude, you're a real, current, blogger. You can blog it. :p I'm just an alum blogger.</p>

<p>is it possible for freshman to get singles....particularly in New House or Next House?!?</p>

<p>It depends on the abundance of rooms of each type in the dorm, keeping in mind that sophomores, juniors, and seniors have already selected the rooms they'd like to have.</p>

<p>In general, freshmen are likely to get singles only in MacGregor, Senior Haus, and frequently EC. Singles exist in other dorms, but they are usually snapped up by upperclassmen.</p>

<p>What are the chances of getting into MacGregor as a freshman? I like the idea of having people close as roommates without actually being roommates (if that makes sense...).</p>

<p>tintin: there are no "freshmen" dorms, so every dorm has a relatively equal mix of all grades. Your chances of getting into MacGregor depend on how popular it is among your class in the summer lottery, and have nothing to do with your status as a freshman.</p>

<p>To add to what Laura's saying: </p>

<p>About 70% of people usually get their first choice dorm in the summer lottery, but obviously people who rank low-popularity dorms first have a better chance of getting in than people who rank high-popularity dorms first. Unfortunately, there's not any way to determine in advance which dorm will be which.</p>

<p>Last year's results (here:">http://www-tech.mit.edu/V127/N35/housing.html)):&lt;/a>

...but of course, past performance is not a guarantee of future results and all that.</p>

<p>And tintin, your idea makes total sense to me -- I lived in MacGregor, and my next-door neighbor/best friend and I considered ourselves roommates who had beds in different rooms.</p>

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<p>Well, that's not entirely true...the [profanities deleted] Freshmen On Campus policy (the thing that doesn't let you live in the FSILGs until you're a sophomore) has led to certain dorms having a rather disproportionate percentage of frosh. Baker, for instance, was about 40% frosh as of a year or two ago. Next has been high-frosh for a few years, but now that their RBA is no longer binding, this should stop being a problem.</p>

<p>But yeah, there are no frosh dorms. Which should be obvious when I talk about a 40% frosh dorm in terms of that percentage being extraordinarily, problematically, high. :)</p>

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<p>This is such an important point, and one that younger MIT students tend not to grasp when advising their prefrosh friends about MIT housing (because all they know is how the dorms have performed in the last year or two, so they assume that's how it always is).</p>

<p>When I was a frosh, there were people who had put East Campus as their fifth choice who were getting it, it was so unpopular (I, for the record, put it first). Two years later, East Campus was the most popular dorm. Now it is in the middle. If I had advised the class of '09 frosh to game the system based on the popularity of dorms when I was a frosh, they would have ended up very unhappy! Beware of gaming the system...even the previous year's popular or unpopular dorms aren't necessarily going to be the same for your year.</p>

<p>Hehe, I heard about people who put EC #1 and Random as #2 and still got into Random (I believe this is the year Jessie is talking about). For those who don't know, Random is an extremely small dorm - I believe the smallest, at about 90 people - so people getting in there as a second choice was pretty surprising that year.</p>

<p>I have a question for any past or present MacGregor residents:</p>

<p>Which are the more social entries? Does it change from year to year? How does one determine which are more social? Are the more social ones harder to get into during entry rush?</p>

<p>I want MacGregor tooo!!!
You can be in my entry! PSETTING PARTIES lol
I don't think you have to worry about the entry stuff till in house lottery. The ones in the tall tower has really really nice views.</p>

<p>When I was there, A, D, and G were generally considered to be most social, in no particular order.</p>

<p>After everybody gets a final dorm assignment, each dorm will hold in-house rush. In MacGregor, that means that all the freshmen are divided into groups and rotate through each entry meeting residents. Each entry will talk about what they like to do as a group, and you can ask them questions and talk and get to know them. (And, of course, you're welcome to wander around entries prior to in-house, which is probably a more honest way to get to know what an entry is really like.)</p>

<p>After in-house, each freshman ranks the entries from 1-9, and each entry says "yes", "no", or "indifferent" to each freshman. All of the responses get fed into a computer, which runs a lottery to "maximize house happiness." So it's relatively harder to get into the more popular entries (which are not necessarily the most social entries, but often are), but if you make friends with residents of that entry and know they're going to say "yes" for you, it is easier to get in.</p>

<p>(Also, rainynightstarz, just FYI -- don't let anybody in A or B entry hear that you're super-excited about the view -- that's one of the quickest ways to get A or B to say "no" to you, if they think you're more interested in the view than in the community. ;))</p>

<p>thanks for the tip Mollie. Having a nice view only goes so far; for example, Baker is not one of my top choice.</p>

<p>@Mollie: Did you ever feel that you missed out on the college experience by not having a roommate freshmen year?
Is there a In-Entry rush to pick people in your suite?</p>

<p>Ugh, I WISH BC would get its act together and write a program to do freshman floor assignments. It would get rid of SO MUCH drama, and make me really happy.</p>

<p><em>sigh</em></p>